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In this episode:
\"I used to think that saying 'I don't have it' was a sign of weakness. When in reality, the weakness was not having it and thinking you do.\"
Jessica Schwartz is joined by Jack Grisham of TSOL and co-host Tequila Mockingbird for a candid conversation about creativity, accountability, recovery, and the enduring spirit of DIY. Moving beyond familiar punk origin stories, they reflect on writing, criticism, sobriety, violence, vulnerability, and the lifelong work of learning how to make—and remake—yourself.
Together, they discuss the early Southern California punk scene, the formation of TSOL, punk's myths and realities, gender expression, authorship, and what it means to continue creating across music, literature, and film. Throughout the conversation, Grisham offers an unflinching look at personal responsibility while reflecting on the ways punk both challenged and reproduced the worlds it sought to resist.
Jack Grisham is the vocalist and founding member of TSOL and has spent more than four decades writing, performing, and creating across music, literature, and film. He is the author of several books, including An American Demon and A Principle of Recovery, and continues to write fiction and create new work across multiple media.
Recorded April 2021.
Links + References:
Jack Grisham (@jackgrisham) • Facebook
Jack Grisham (@jackgrishamphoto) • Instagram photos and videos
Credits:
Punkast is hosted and produced by Jessica Schwartz.
Co-hosted and guest produced by Tequila Mockingbird.
Editorial support: Arrow Avalon– audio editing, episode notes, and audio-synced transcript.
Transcript:
Theme Music:
Lady Bits, \"Bitch-a-thon,\" Lady Bits.
Related:
Jessica Schwartz co-hosts the Punk Scholars Podcast.
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