{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/5f42a942de45bf4fbe3a9c44/6a2f9a5ae6540bec0fa82f7a?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Interview with Dublin Poet Mark Ward","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/5f42a942de45bf4fbe3a9c44/1781460578315-b384f04c-cdd3-4d74-8712-0e583cf8732d.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Welcome back to <em>Words That Burn</em>, the poetry podcast where host Benjamin Collopy takes a closer look at the verse that shapes our world.</p><p><br></p><p>Whether you're here to deepen your poetry appreciation or are simply looking for accessible poetry for beginners, the goal is to make poetry education engaging for everyone.</p><p>In this episode, Ben sits down for an in-depth poem discussion with Mark Ward, an incredible voice in modern Irish poetry. They explore Mark's compelling poet biography; from his early days writing in Dublin to his work as a playwright, before jumping into a full poem deep dive of his brand-new collection, <em>Real Estate</em> ( from Salmon Poetry).</p><p>Listeners will get the mechanics of Mark's poetry explained by the poet himself. Through thoughtful poetry analysis, Ben and Mark unpack the evocative literary devices used to capture everything from the collapse of a relationship to the profound grief of losing a beloved pet.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><h3>Key Topics Discussed</h3><ul><li><strong>The Architecture of Verse:</strong> Why Mark considers every line of a poem to be \"prime real estate\" and the importance of leaning into subjects that scare you.</li><li><strong>Grief and the Physical World:</strong> A close look at the sequence <em>Nine Lives</em>, dedicated to Mark's cat, Carbon, which beautifully captures the tactile realities of caregiving and loss.</li><li><strong>Body Horror &amp; Metaphor:</strong> Exploring the complex imagery and literary devices in the poem <em>Hunger</em>, where inner anxieties warp physical, domestic spaces.</li><li><strong>Documenting Queer History:</strong> How poetry serves as an alternative lineage, with a focus on <em>1992</em>, a piece that memorializes Dublin's 1980s and 1990s gay culture.</li><li><strong>Subverting Expectations:</strong> A reading and analysis of <em>Slow Evening</em>, a joyful and tender poem that acts as a poignant rebuke to the tragic \"Bury Your Gays\" narrative trope.</li></ul><h3><br></h3><h3>About the Guest</h3><p><br></p><p><strong>Mark Ward</strong> is a poet, playwright, and short story writer based in Dublin. He is the author of two full-length collections with Salmon Poetry: <em>Nightlight</em> (2023) and his latest release, <em>Real Estate</em>. His diverse body of work also includes six chapbooks ranging from sonnets to queer ekphrastic verse, and his plays have been staged at the International Dublin Gay Theatre Festival.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><h3>Follow &amp; Support Mark:</h3><p><br></p><p><a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/faekplastiksteev?igsh=MXg4YWswdGNlb3Y0Zg==\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">On Instagram</a></p><p><a href=\"https://booksupstairs.ie/product/real-estate-2/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Buy the book here</a></p><p><a href=\"https://www.salmonpoetry.com/details.php?ID=648&amp;a=365\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">or here</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><h3>Follow the Podcast:</h3><p><br></p><p><a href=\"https://open.substack.com/pub/wordsthatburn/p/interview-with-dublin-poet-mark-ward?r=th4eb&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=true\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Read the interview on Substack</a></p><p><a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/wordsthatburnpodcast/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Follow the Podcast On Instagram</a></p><p><a href=\"https://twitter.com/wordsthatburn\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Follow the Podcast on X/Twitter</a></p><p><a href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@wordsthatburn2?lang=en\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Follow the Podcast on Tiktok</a></p><p><a href=\"https://bsky.app/profile/wordsthatburn.bsky.social\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Follow the podcast on Bluesky</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Time Stamps:</strong></p><p><br></p><p>00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro</p><p>01:01 What Real Estate Means</p><p>03:04 Building Poem Sequences</p><p>05:00 Revisiting Old Work</p><p>06:29 Writing Breakup Darkness</p><p>11:05 Nine Lives and Pet Grief</p><p>13:16 Reading Carer Aloud</p><p>14:44 Desire and Physicality</p><p>17:41 Hunger Image Craft</p><p>20:43 Reading Hunger Aloud</p><p>22:35 Desire Versus Self</p><p>24:15 Writing From Observation</p><p>26:04 Finding Poetry Mentors</p><p>28:14 Ekphrasis And Queer Lineage</p><p>31:42 Poetry As Cultural Memory</p><p>36:18 Reading Poem 1992</p><p>38:24 Slow Evening And Gay Joy</p><p>42:47 Closing Thanks</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><h3><br></h3>","author_name":"Benjamin Collopy"}