{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/5ed5cbde4245a326926b697a/5f13a9053fc2b95a3980493b?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"7. Will Swanton","description":"<p><a href=\"https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/behold-a-true-champion-in-all-her-majesty/news-story/eae796caf1dd50b0f2e43cd387db9236\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Read Will's story on the racehorse Winx here</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href=\"https://www.theaustralian.com.au/weekend-australian-magazine/how-stephanie-gilmore-fell-to-earth-and-surfed-back-to-the-top/news-story/f5661cb89c97957ccaec6bed7e9f935c\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Read Will's story on surfer Steph Gilmore here</a></p><p><br></p><p>[02:17] Will talks us through his backstory, and how he came to be a sports writer</p><p>\"I played a lot of sport … I was a good cricketer and tennis player. I beat Todd Woodbridge love-and-love when we were in the Under-14s – I think Todd was about eight\"</p><p>\"I really love the atmosphere of a game day, the emotion that surrounds live sport – the psychology of it all and what an athlete goes through from when they wake up on a big day to just how that whole thing plays out.\"</p><p>[08:30] Will talks about note-taking in an interviewing, and what he'll take in terms of questions into an interview</p><p>\"Straight after an interview I'll write a lede straight out on pen and paper – just on a scrap piece of paper. A lot of the interviews are so enjoyable, you're still kind of up (immediately afterward) … so I'll write down a couple of parts that I think will make the lede.\"</p><p>[12:28] Will talks about his habit of writing in two-hour bursts</p><p>[15:35] Will talks about his piece on the racehorse Winx, in which he included his daughter, who came along with him to the Rosehill Racecourse for this story… </p><p>\"If there was one yarn I enjoyed writing – ever – it was that\"</p><p>\"To be honest, not much of that stuff is deliberate … I feel really untrained as a writer … I didn't go to journalism college, so I feel like there's no set method to stick to. I'm lucky I have bosses who give me the freedom to do that.\"</p><p>\"You can tell if someone's having fun while they're writing – there's fun in the words, there's fun in the story.\"</p><p>[27:57] Will talks about finding your voice as a writer, and what that means to him</p><p>\"The mistake can be trying to be something you're not. I've definitely had stages where I've thought, 'Well if I'm going to be a newspaper journo, I've got to forget the colour stuff … and not waffle on. But I didn't enjoy it half as much.\"</p><p>[32:24] Will talks about scenes, with the dawn at Rosehill an example </p><p>\"The really enjoyable stuff [is] being somewhere – at a live event, at the stadium or the racetrack. And that's where I just take notes non-stop. That kind of thing of trying to write it in the present or in the moment is really important to try and get the atmosphere across.\"</p><p>[34:20] Will talks about rhythm and momentum in a story, and how he writes in the moment, when he's feeling it</p><p>\"That goosebump feeling that you have in the moment won't last – so the sooner you write it, the more it's going to come across in your writing.\"</p><p>[38:44] Will talks about finding a 'sting in the tail' to his story</p><p>\"You want to structure it so there's a good proper ending … a lot of the times your best lines might also be your last one … you've got to trust your editors that they're not just going to chop it from the bottom.\"</p><p>[41:16] Will talks about teeing up the interview for his profile with surfing champ Steph Gilmore</p><p>\"I remember covering Steph from when she was a teenage rookie – happiest person on the planet. So you've got a long-standing working relationship with someone, and hopefully a bit of trust is part of that.\"</p><p>\"It had happened years earlier but she'd never really talked about it in detail … and that kind of stuff is so enjoyable to do.\"</p><p>[42:20] Will talks about the benefits of a pre-planned interview </p><p>\"If you're willing enough to be open and honest, I give you my word that I will do my very best to say the story in the right way … if you put your heart into the interview over a couple of hours, I will put my heart into the yarn for you and let's see how we go.\"</p><p>&nbsp;[49:30] Will on using a technique to put the reader in the room with him and the subject </p><p>[52:49] Will on striking a balance between his own words and using quotes</p><p>[54:15] Will on the bane of every journo's existence: transcribing interviews</p><p>[55:12] Will on the pros and cons of specialising within sport</p><p>[59:57] Will tackles our weekly hypothetical: Who would he most love to interview and then write about in-depth&nbsp;</p>","author_name":"Black Lab Podcasts"}