{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/5d26e496b9ed80ab57e7f4af/6abb6b3729a486156af0d2e6?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Ep. 287 - CL Hellisen on Navigating the Publishing Grind","description":"<p><a href=\"https://youtu.be/YJr7vo11VMU\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Watch this as a full video interview on YouTube</a></p><p><br></p><p>CL Hellisen, formerly published as Cat Hellisen, is a South African author living in Scotland who writes speculative and fantasy fiction across adult, young adult, and middle-grade genres. Their published works include <em>When the Sea is Rising Red</em>, <em>House of Sand and Secrets</em>, and <em>Beastkeeper</em>, along with numerous award-winning short stories featured in publications such as <em>Tor.com</em> and <em>The Magazine of Fantasy &amp; Science Fiction</em>. Their latest novel is <em>The Shape of Monsters</em>.</p><p><br></p><p>We had a great time chatting with Cat, hearing about world-building in secondary world fantasy and navigating the ups and downs of changing literary agents. We also talk about the reality of securing an audiobook-first deal before landing a print release, the craft differences between short fiction and novels, and we get some interesting anecdotes about writing routines, dealing with industry tropes, and keeping motivated through awards and release days!</p><p><br></p><p>Links:</p><p><a href=\"https://uk.bookshop.org/a/18026/9781037401190\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Buy The Shape of Monsters now</a></p><p><a href=\"https://bsky.app/profile/clhellisen.com\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Follow CL on Bluesky</a></p><p><a href=\"https://clhellisen.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Visit CL&#39;s website</a></p><p><br></p><p>Support us on Patreon and get the podcast early and ad-free, along with other great benefits, including a bonus episodes: <a href=\"https://www.patreon.com/ukpageone\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.patreon.com/ukpageone</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href=\"https://linktr.ee/narrativedamagerpg\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Listen to authors telling stories together on our sister show, Narrative Damage</a></p><p><br></p><p>Page One - The Writer&#39;s Podcast is brought to you by Write Gear, creators of Page One - the Writer&#39;s Notebook. Learn more and order yours now: <a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqbTcwZnBmNkJJWjhpMkxKaHQ2bmEzM3NyeFdNZ3xBQ3Jtc0ttUjl6YlBITU5sblhyUUIzeVR5Rll2bXVKcC1jNUVBZVdEV2lleTB2MDB5ejlqOEw2RlNZWHNBQ0E0Z2RXSE9ReHRQTGhqNmEzRVVkdHBZcGE5OHlTYWNkVzIxdlE4d2hmNDVVX25tWTBDUWJlX2Q4WQ&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.writegear.co.uk%2Fpage-one&amp;v=JcQfKlXfayI\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.writegear.co.uk/page-one</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href=\"https://www.facebook.com/ukPageOne\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Follow us on Facebook</a></p><p><a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/ukpageone/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Follow us on Instagram</a></p><p><a href=\"https://bsky.app/profile/ukpageone.bsky.social\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Follow us on Bluesky</a></p><p><a href=\"https://www.threads.net/@ukpageone\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Follow us on Threads</a></p><p><br></p><p>Page One - The Writer&#39;s Podcast is part of <a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/@stetpodcasts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">STET Podcasts</a> - the one stop shop for all your writing and publishing podcast needs! Follow STET Podcasts on <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/stetpodcasts/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Instagram</a> and <a href=\"https://bsky.app/profile/stetpodcasts.bsky.social\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Bluesky</a></p>","author_name":"STET Podcasts"}