{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/5baba374bcb6856c601eeac8/699da3f6483a12159206a0d7?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"8.09: Outside Conversations with Zaid Hassan - How to Evolve (and How Not To)","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/5baba374bcb6856c601eeac8/1771938717932-00573336-3cb8-4544-86a4-44601e69db74.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>What does it really mean to evolve — as individuals, communities, and societies?</p><p><br></p><p>In this thoughtful and timely conversation, Tim reconnects with longtime collaborator and systems thinker Zaid Hassan to explore his new book,&nbsp;<em>How to Evolve and How Not To</em>.</p><p><br></p><p>Drawing on 25 years of work tackling complex global challenges - from climate negotiations inside the UN COP process to launching a decentralized global climate initiative during COVID - Zaid reflects on why so many change efforts fail and what real practice actually looks like.</p><p><br></p><p>Together, Tim and Zaid explore the courage it takes to see reality clearly, the difference between technical fixes and adaptive change, and why agency matters more than ever in a world that can feel overwhelming. At its heart, this episode is about culture as a collection of choices - and what happens when we begin to understand the evolutionary consequences of the decisions we make every day.</p><p><br></p><p>Zaid will be on a global book tour this fall, including Halifax, Nova Scotia in October. Woo. Woo.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Resources:&nbsp;</strong></p><ul><li>Learn more about, and follow, The Outside by visiting and liking all of our channels:</li><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href=\"http://www.findtheoutside.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">www.findtheoutside.com</a></li><li>Facebook &amp; Instagram: @findtheoutside</li><li>LinkedIn:&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/company/findtheoutside\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.linkedin.com/company/findtheoutside</a></li><li>Connect with us at&nbsp;<a href=\"mailto:hello@findtheoutside.com\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">hello@findtheoutside.com</a></li></ul><p><br></p><ul><li>Meet&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/zaidhassan/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Zaid Hassan</a></li><li><a href=\"https://xinx.co/team\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">ten in ten</a></li><li>Book: “<a href=\"https://www.amazon.ca/Social-Labs-Revolution-Approach-Challenges/dp/1626560730\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">The Social Labs Revolution: A New Approach to Solving our Most Complex Challenges</a>,” by Zaid Hassan</li><li>Zaid’s New Book: “<a href=\"https://xinx.co/howtoevolve\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">How to Evolve And How Not To</a>” (Peakrill Press, 2026)</li><li>Join Zaid on his&nbsp;<a href=\"https://xinx.co/howtoevolve#tour\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">upcoming book tour</a>!</li><li>Read&nbsp;<a href=\"https://substack.com/@yourfundaisweak\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">articles from Zaid&nbsp;</a>on Substack</li></ul><p><br></p>","author_name":"Tim Merry & Tuesday Rivera"}