{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/5a481aca95dfbf9d13d4dc6f/6546b805a809bc0012d6cd12?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"731: Debate and Understanding on Population Projections with Wolfgang Lutz and Chris Bystroff","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/5a481aca95dfbf9d13d4dc6f/1700346781220-d65ae238c5096c3bdc0f200fe1ff9925.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>I hosted two professionals who model population growth with different views, some complementary, some conflicting: <a href=\"https://joshuaspodek.com/guests/wolfgang-lutz\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Wolfgang Lutz</a> and <a href=\"https://joshuaspodek.com/guests/chris-bystroff\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Chris Bystroff</a>. I learned from both and recommend listening to their episodes first. I've also recorded episodes with many guests and solo episodes on population:</p><ul><li><a href=\"https://shows.acast.com/leadership-and-the-environment/episodes/475\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">475: We Can Dance Around Environmental Problems All We Want. We Eventually Reach Overpopulation and Overconsumption</a></li><li><a href=\"https://shows.acast.com/leadership-and-the-environment/episodes/294-population-how-much-is-too-much\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">294: Population: How Much Is Too Much?</a></li><li><a href=\"https://shows.acast.com/leadership-and-the-environment/episodes/251-lets-make-birth-control-only-a-finance-issue\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">251: Let's make overpopulation only a finance issue</a></li><li><a href=\"https://shows.acast.com/leadership-and-the-environment/episodes/250-why-talk-about-birthrate-and-population-so-much\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">250: Why talk about birthrate and population so much?</a></li><li><a href=\"https://shows.acast.com/leadership-and-the-environment/episodes/248-countdown-a-book-i-recommend-by-alan-weisman\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">248: Countdown, a book I recommend by Alan Weisman</a></li></ul><p>I invited Wolfgang and Chris to talk about their different views and see if they could learn from each other and we could learn from them. That's this episode. I clarified I wasn't looking for Crossfire-like talking past each other but seeing what each or the other is missing and mutual learning. I think you'll enjoy the conversation. My only regret is that we couldn't have talked longer because we could have covered more.</p><p><br></p><p>Past guests who spoke on population</p><ul><li><a href=\"https://joshuaspodek.com/guests/jane-osullivan\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Jane O'Sullivan</a></li><li><a href=\"https://joshuaspodek.com/guests/alan-weisman\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Alan Weisman</a></li><li><a href=\"https://joshuaspodek.com/guests/alexandra-paul\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Alexandra Paul</a></li><li><a href=\"https://joshuaspodek.com/guests/bill-ryerson\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Bill Ryerson</a></li><li><a href=\"https://joshuaspodek.com/guests/michael-gurven\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Michael Gurven</a></li><li><a href=\"https://joshuaspodek.com/guests/karen-shragg-e-d-d\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Karen Shragg﻿</a></li></ul>","author_name":"Joshua Spodek: Author, Speaker, Professor"}