{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/5a481aca95dfbf9d13d4dc6f/64b3e93c4e9feb0011dd5efc?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"702: Peter Singer, part 1: Calm, reflective talk considering not flying","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/5a481aca95dfbf9d13d4dc6f/1689511725501-fd1fdc2b67c165cbc7132cdf6ad7fe78.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>With Peter Singer, I could have picked several topics relevant to sustainability leadership: veganism, vegetarianism, and charity come to mind, as does my post about him six months ago, <a href=\"https://joshuaspodek.com/fixing-peter-singers-drowning-child-situation-for-sustainability\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Fixing Peter Singer’s drowning child analogy for sustainability</a>. The day before recording, I saw him speak live and asked during the question-and-answer period at the end about not flying.</p><p>He answered thoughtfully and reflectively, not with the usual reactivity and emotional intensity most people do, protecting their feelings of guilt and shame, as I see them (I wrote <a href=\"https://joshuaspodek.com/the-reason-you-feel-judged-isnt-because-environmentalists-are-judging-you-its-because-you-have-a-conscience\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">The reason you feel judged isn’t because environmentalists are judging you. It’s because you have a conscience.</a>) Several audience members told me they appreciated my asking the question. So when we spoke after he finished his stage performance, I asked if he'd mind following up the question in our podcast conversation.</p><p>So we spoke in more depth about flying versus not flying. I think I can safely say we both learned from each other, though I think he hasn't spoken with many people who have stopped flying to gain from their experience.</p><p><br></p><p>Coincidentally, his talk on stage was fireside chat-style with podcast guest <a href=\"https://joshuaspodek.com/guests/a-j-jacobs\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">AJ Jacobs</a>. Small world. If you like intelligent, thoughtful conversation, check out <a href=\"https://thinkinc.org.au/pages/an-evening-with-peter-singer\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Think Inc., the company that organized the talk</a>. They host events with many speakers who are peers.</p>","author_name":"Joshua Spodek: Author, Speaker, Professor"}