{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/5a481aca95dfbf9d13d4dc6f/5ea35976c41b757d77f7b343?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"331: Rob Harper, part 2: A Pro-Trump View","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/5a481aca95dfbf9d13d4dc6f/1587763566905-ee72c35a604f59c53a8c15186c52b11b.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Our second recorded conversation covered Rob's experience with separating his recycling.</p><p>The first time we met we meant to record but ended up speaking for three hours, partly meeting as person-to-person and also talking about what people in this country with differing political views probably used to but don't any more. We also ate my famous no-packaging vegetable stew---a delicious way to minimize polluting.</p><p>The second time we recorded, but also spoke a good hour first. In other words, despite Rob supporting Donald Trump and my opposing, we're communicating a lot---in the style of Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Antonin Scalia. We don't plan to keep talking unrecorded, but we start and next thing you know we've covered a lot.</p><p>As you'll hear at the end of this conversation, we're talking about continuing our conversation in other media. Since recording, those conversations have happened, covering issues only comedians do, but seriously. <a href=\"http://joshuaspodek.com/?s=magamedia\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Check out my blog for those conversations</a>.</p><p>I find it refreshing to continue to learn his perspective and to air out a few views. I hope to learn how to help conservatives who value clean air, land, and water but who don't live by those values following my model for leadership---to help people do what they wanted to but haven't figured out how.</p><p>I'm curious where his environmental challenge will go. He may stop, but I suspect something will linger.</p>","author_name":"Joshua Spodek: Author, Speaker, Professor"}