{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/5a481aca95dfbf9d13d4dc6f/5c880dc93c2ef69b2bc3eff6?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"153: Sean O'Connor, part 1: From paper cups to evaluating life","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/5a481aca95dfbf9d13d4dc6f/1552420314588-0898e29730ffee6b756a250fbd8e70c4.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Today's guest, Sean, is a friend. We recorded this conversation before the podcast launched in November 2017. It took a while to get through the editing process, but I wanted to post it to document the evolution of the podcast and me.</p><p>For Sean, it shows him as a leader of leaders, since all the guests since followed him. In showing that I grew as an interviewer, finding a purpose, strategy, and voice, I hope it shows the accessibility for anyone to take an environmental leadership role.</p><p>This conversation helped the podcast's strategy emerge. It's largely based on learning that community influences behavior more than facts.</p><p>So I'm bringing world-renowned guests -- people in everyone's communities. If Oprah shares her environmental values, acts on them, and shares that the results bring her joy and liberation, I think many others will -- not blindly following her as a celebrity but acting on their values as she acts on hers.</p><p>This conversation enabled what came next.</p>","author_name":"Joshua Spodek: Author, Speaker, Professor"}