{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/5a481aca95dfbf9d13d4dc6f/5c64105006efa4054acf750c?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"135: Why We Want a World Without Growth","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/5a481aca95dfbf9d13d4dc6f/1550061634947-490f1df1c0dbb5c3eecc2b1d28f65e23.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>People seem to have a hard time imagining a world without growth, specifically economic growth or population growth. There's personal growth, but I'm talking about materially measurable growth.</p><p>People seem to believe that economic growth is necessary. I've looked and haven't found any reasonable proof of its necessity.</p><p>People say you need inflation to keep motivating people, but I don't see any founding for such a belief besides their unfounded, and apparently self-serving, idealism. We understand people and our motivations better than they used to when these economic theories started. Sadly, our financial and political systems keep operating on these flawed understandings.</p><p>On the contrary, I've found societies that have lived for tens to hundreds of thousands of years, stably, which disproves that you need growth.</p><p>Nobody thinks that if a thousand people were stuck on an island that had resources to sustain a thousand people indefinitely -- imagining a time without satellites and our modern ability to find any group of that size anywhere -- that those people couldn't figure out how to sustain themselves on those resources.</p><p>Actually in such a situation, everyone sees growth beyond a thousand people would be a problem.</p><p>We are in such a situation, only a bigger island.</p>","author_name":"Joshua Spodek: Author, Speaker, Professor"}