{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/5a481aca95dfbf9d13d4dc6f/5b4387bdef00702464440f33?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"061: The Rainforest Alliance, United Nations, and NYU-Stern: Tensie Whelan","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/5a481aca95dfbf9d13d4dc6f/1531151759127-048d636421c79400d9c8b13147756e8c.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Tensie is helping unravel my preconceived notions of academics focusing more on facts than action.</p><p>Maybe because she was President of the Rainforest Alliance. Maybe because I met her when she brought the U.N. Secretary General to NYU.</p><p>You'll hear other global organizations and people she's influenced, led, and collaborated with in a remarkable and effective career so far.</p><p>She brings a new perspective on leading organizations to this podcast, as I've mostly focused on leading people.</p><p>She shares stories that massive change is possible. She lived it. She talks experience, not just theory.</p><p>She also shares practical advice and histories of what worked and what takes more patience since it's not easy. Always dealing with people. Some points you'll hear from her work:</p><p>- Effective leadership is rarely, if ever, about being right.</p><p>- Empathy helps lead about people and organizations. You still have to understand organizations as you do people.</p><p>- It's hard in practice -- emotionally, internally. Maintaining integrity while empathizing with people doing things you disagree with.</p><p>- But if you want change, being effective is more important than venting.</p><p>A younger, angrier, less skilled me would only think to protest organizations I disagreed with. As she shares, confrontation is still important, but also to engage and lead.</p><p>Hard work is exciting.</p>","author_name":"Joshua Spodek: Author, Speaker, Professor"}