{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/57cc3c7d-b0fd-4930-9279-4e84c75df457/6a9ac6bc3559f1747861bfc3?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Can humans keep control of AI?","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/62e286a834d4d9a8af874246/1788528301856-789ad361-dd06-496f-8ec6-1c151207046c.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>How do you protect democracy and liberty <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/leaders/2026/08/20/could-ais-become-conscious?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=checksandbalance&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">as AI advances</a>? Are America’s political institutions up to the task? Dean Ball has worked on these questions at the White House, in think-tank land and now for OpenAI. In an extended interview, he gives us a glimpse into the AI future.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Guests and hosts:</p><ul><li>John Prideaux, executive editor&nbsp;</li><li>Dean Ball, head of strategic futures at OpenAI</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Topics covered:</p><ul><li>The role of frontier AI labs in keeping AI safe</li><li>What AI means for democracy</li><li>Why there’s no off button</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Gloria Steinem, who passed away this week, spoke to John Prideaux in 2024 for our “Boom!” podcast series. <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/podcasts/2024/07/11/2-1978-i-love-the-nightlife\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Click here</a> to listen to the episode she features in.</p><p><br></p><p><em>Transcripts of our podcasts are available via </em><a href=\"http://economist.com/podcasts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>economist.com/podcasts</em></a></p><p><br></p><p><em>Listen to what matters most, from global politics and business to science and technology—</em><a href=\"https://subscribenow.economist.com/podcasts-plus\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>subscribe to Economist Podcasts+</em></a>&nbsp;<em>&nbsp;</em></p><p><br></p><p><br></p>","author_name":"The Economist"}