What are you running from?
In this episode I sit down with David Gerber, lion tracker, coach and author of The Lion Is You, to explore why so many of us run from our pain, and what happens when we finally stop.
We talk about the divorce that sent him into a low he never saw coming, feeling nothing while riding a dirt bike through Sedona, and lying on the floor of an Airbnb, staring at a ceiling fan. We talk about why he tried to effort his way out with more therapy, more coaching and more experiences, and why it didn’t work.
We also explore why a Super Bowl winner’s high lasted just two days, what a lion in a zoo showed him at 15, and what it’s like to stand your ground when a lioness charges at 50 miles an hour.
But underneath all of this, this conversation is about something much more personal.The things we use to avoid what we feel.The drinking, the scrolling, the working, even the self-improvement.And what changes when you finally turn around and face it.
You can’t outrun it.The only way out is through.David Gerber is a coach at Novus Global who works with professional athletes and leaders. A certified level one tracker, he leads trips to track lions on foot in the wild. He is the author of The Lion Is You.
This episode includes discussion of suicide.
If you’re struggling, please reach out:
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction: Stop Running Away
(00:32) Divorce and Rock Bottom
(01:02) Sedona and Lions Spark
(05:07) Healing Takes Time
(07:27) Learning to Feel
(10:20) Dark Tunnel Thoughts
(14:51) Accepting What Is
(17:30) Support Systems Matter
(18:56) Movement and Cold Therapy
(22:30) Redefining Success
(26:45) Athletes After the Win
(31:15) Trophies Rust Reality
(31:46) Tomorrow Is Priceless
(33:35) Money Can’t Fix Life
(34:45) Inside Lion Tracking
(37:03) Zoo Lion Awakening
(39:58) Charged by a Lioness
(42:13) Courage on Foot
(46:18) Boundaries With Lions
(50:11) Adventure and the Cage
(55:52) Follow the Irrational Track
(01:00:17) Advice to 15-Year-Old Me
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