{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/4b0cd813-7493-4305-b809-fd8071075e21/8471b3de-0a9d-4c1e-854a-c4a06da02192?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Episode 187: Being a carer with Penny Wincer","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/611ed77306c05ec5f0f40e85/611ed7ce014bb2001382b5d6.jpg?height=200","description":"<p>Our guest for this episode is the brilliant Penny&nbsp;Wincer&nbsp;- writer, photographer, and carer. She tells us about looking after her mum when she was a teenager, and what life is like now she is caring for her autistic son.</p><p><br></p><p>We learn about how it feels to be the child of a person with mental health issues, and how Penny coped after her mum's suicide. She also shares the biggest lesson she learned from her mum's experience&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>We discuss the stigma that still exists around special education, and the difficulties and benefits of having a child who's on a different path. Penny gives us some useful advice for carers, and some ideas for how those around them can offer support. We hear about Penny's own self-care strategies, and why she thinks mum guilt is bullshit. Plus: find out why Helen's coffee machine is like a vagina.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Penny's superb book, Tender: The Imperfect Art of Caring, is&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.waterstones.com/book/tender/penny-wincer/9781529331219\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">out now</a>. You can find her website at&nbsp;<a href=\"http://pennywincer.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">pennywincer.com</a>, or follow her on Instagram&nbsp;@pennywincer.</p><p><br></p><p>**SEE US LIVE!** Our tip top comedy show is BACK with new socially distanced seating, and maybe even some new jokes. We'll be in Sevenoaks on 1 October, and Cirencester on 21 October. Visit&nbsp;<a href=\"http://scummymummies.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">scummymummies.com</a>&nbsp;for tickets.</p><p><br></p><p>**WE HAVE A SHOP!** Visit&nbsp;<a href=\"http://scummymummiesshop.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">scummymummiesshop.com</a>&nbsp;for our ace t-shirts, signature Wine Mugs, and Mum Island beach towels! FREE UK DELIVERY!&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>We're on Twitter (@scummymummies), Instagram, and Facebook. Please send your confessions to <a href=\"mailto:scummymummiespodcast@gmail.com\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">scummymummiespodcast@gmail.com</a> and visit us at<a href=\"http://scummymummies.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> ScummyMummies.com</a>. If you like the podcast, please rate, review and subscribe!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The Scummy Mummies book is OUT NOW! We hope you like it, and if you do, we'd love an Amazon review!</p><p><br></p><p>Thank you for listening!</p>","author_name":"Ellie Gibson and Helen Thorn"}