{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/3b497baf-71cb-4c27-ae5a-f1e801822221/699ee65e7156d5087400c11b?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Ukraine extra: burner phones and lost children","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/621f5d0f4892fde41624d4ac/1772021231854-e5e1822d-6cbb-4fa2-9895-7fc7a5a93f13.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Join Caroline as she visits Ukraine on the fourth anniversary of Russia's invasion. Burner phones to make sure the Russians don't track them as they travel in on a train called the Bravery Express. A meeting with the first lady, and with a woman who was captured and held in a forced labour camp. Kyiv is a busy, modern city where some residents have to find tents to get heating and electricity.</p><p><br></p><p>Caroline Wheeler, political editor, The Sunday Times</p><p><br></p><p>Producer: Euan Dawtrey</p><p>Executive producer: Molly Guinness</p><p><br></p><p>Picture credit: Getty Images</p><p><br></p><p>Email us: <a href=\"mailto:thestateofit@thetimes.co.uk\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">thestateofit@thetimes.co.uk</a></p>","author_name":"The Times"}