{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/3b497baf-71cb-4c27-ae5a-f1e801822221/6979e5350507f71624799d19?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Bonus episode: Flying to China with the PM","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/621f5d0f4892fde41624d4ac/1769596209528-39701c38-e36e-46ff-9f9e-1286316f4f7e.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Bonus episode.</p><p>Join Caroline and Steve on the plane with the prime minister. Why did he end speaking to journalists from a loo? What's it like to travel with a PM? And how can Starmer balance concerns about espionage and human rights with the UK's business interests?</p><p><br></p><p>Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times</p><p>Caroline Wheeler, political editor, The Sunday Times</p><p><br></p><p>Producer: Euan Dawtrey</p><p>Executive producer: Molly Guinness</p><p><br></p><p>Picture credit: Getty Images</p><p><br></p><p>Email us: <a href=\"mailto:thestateofit@thetimes.co.uk\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">thestateofit@thetimes.co.uk</a></p>","author_name":"The Times"}