{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/39fc4a99-8861-437d-81e2-684d13e48f92/69ea3bcd289eeb2c7baa61ec?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"The upstarts shaking up the defence industry","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/62e286a934d4d92155874248/1776958274786-09d55a70-b449-47b0-80dd-3b2e230027fb.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>The Iran war has shown that low-cost drones can challenge even the mightiest military forces. Now the Pentagon is turning to a <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/international/2026/04/20/anduril-palantir-and-spacex-are-changing-how-america-wages-war?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=moneytalks&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">new breed</a> of defence companies, led by Anduril, SpaceX and Palantir. How are these firms changing the way America wages war?</p><p><br></p><p>Guests and hosts:</p><ul><li>Matthew Steckman, president and chief business officer at Anduril</li><li>Henry Tricks, <em>The Economist's</em> US technology editor&nbsp;</li><li>Mike Bird, co-host of “Money Talks”</li><li>Alice Fulwood, co-host of “Money Talks”</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Topics covered:</p><ul><li>Drones</li><li>Defence industry</li><li>Iran war</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>Transcripts of our podcasts are available via</em><a href=\"http://economist.com/podcasts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em> economist.com/podcasts</em></a><em>.</em></p><p><em>Listen to what matters most, from global politics and business to science and technology—</em><a href=\"https://subscribenow.economist.com/podcasts-plus\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>subscribe to Economist Podcasts+</em></a><em>.</em></p><p><em>For more information about how to access Economist Podcasts+, please visit our</em><a href=\"https://myaccount.economist.com/s/article/What-is-Economist-Podcasts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em> FAQs page</em></a><em> or watch</em><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gczo71bg1uY\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em> our video</em></a><em> explaining how to link your account.</em></p>","author_name":"The Economist"}