{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/39fc4a99-8861-437d-81e2-684d13e48f92/688b82716bbbf6afc762383f?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Artificial intelligentsia: an interview with the boss of Anthropic","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/62e286a934d4d92155874248/1753973285457-a3dde5f6-b1c6-4441-ab04-dcbd9273b8ea.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Dario Amodei is an unusual figure to lead one of the world’s most valuable AI firms. Unlike most CEOs, he spends more time talking about geopolitical tensions or the huge job losses his industry is likely to be responsible for than Anthropic's commercial strategy. Safety is central to the company’s mission—and it sells. Revenues appear to be on track to near $10bn this year. That’s ten times more than last year. So how should we think about the seemingly unstoppable <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/business/2025/07/23/the-dark-horse-of-ai-labs?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=moneytalks&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">rise of Anthropic</a>?</p><p><br></p><p>Hosts: Alice Fulwood, Mike Bird and Ethan Wu. Guests: <em>The Economist’s </em>Henry Tricks; Dario Amodei and Anthropic’s in-house philosopher Amanda Askell.</p><p><br></p><p><em>Transcripts of our podcasts are available via </em><a href=\"http://economist.com/podcasts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>economist.com/podcasts</em></a><em>.</em></p><p><br></p><p><em>Listen to what matters most, from global politics and business to science and technology—</em><a href=\"https://subscribenow.economist.com/podcasts-plus\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>subscribe to Economist Podcasts+</em></a><em>.</em></p><p><br></p><p><em>For more information about how to access Economist Podcasts+, please visit our </em><a href=\"https://myaccount.economist.com/s/article/What-is-Economist-Podcasts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>FAQs page</em></a><em> or watch </em><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gczo71bg1uY\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>our video </em></a><em>explaining how to link your account.</em></p>","author_name":"The Economist"}