{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/39fc4a99-8861-437d-81e2-684d13e48f92/67b76d89af08fb18339535ad?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Electric dreams: Indonesia’s reckless bet on EVs","description":"<p>Indonesia has more <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/asia/2025/01/09/indonesia-nearly-has-a-monopoly-on-nickel-what-next?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=moneytalks&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">nickel</a> than it knows what to do with. The metal is a key component in some electric vehicle batteries—and almost half of the world’s supply is produced in the sprawling island nation. But that’s not enough for Prabowo Subianto, the new president, who wants to do more than just mine the mineral. He wants to use it to build a top-to-bottom electric-car supply chain. But just because the country has a near monopoly on nickel, should it really <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/leaders/2025/01/09/just-because-indonesia-has-nickel-doesnt-mean-it-should-make-evs?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=moneytalks&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">make EVs</a>?</p><p><br></p><p>Hosts: Ethan Wu and Mike Bird. Guests: Septian Hario Seto, Indonesian former deputy minister of investment and mining coordination; and Putra Adhiguna, managing director at the Energy Shift Institute, a think tank focusing on Asia’s energy transition.</p><p><br></p><p><em>Transcripts of our podcasts are available via </em><a href=\"http://economist.com/podcasts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>economist.com/podcasts</em></a><em>.</em></p><p><br></p><p><em>Listen to what matters most, from global politics and business to science and technology—</em><a href=\"https://subscribenow.economist.com/podcasts-plus\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>subscribe to Economist Podcasts+</em></a><em>.</em></p><p><br></p><p><em>For more information about how to access Economist Podcasts+, please visit our </em><a href=\"https://myaccount.economist.com/s/article/What-is-Economist-Podcasts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>FAQs page</em></a><em> or watch </em><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gczo71bg1uY\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>our video </em></a><em>explaining how to link your account.</em></p>","author_name":"The Economist"}