{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/3854f6b7-dd07-5986-9cab-9e69ded2bcbd/6a8fb31f872783b8006889bf?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Ep. #1127: Black Duck and Elena Setién","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/620127d84925ed4ea3ec08aa/1787799041837-a89a79b9-a726-4bac-8dd6-c3a2cb502c58.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p><a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/elena_setien/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Elena Setién</a> and <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/blackduckband/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Black Duck</a>’s <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/billdmackay/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Bill MacKay</a> and <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/theerealmccombs/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Douglas McCombs</a> are here to discuss their <a href=\"https://www.thrilljockey.com/products/black-duck-with-elena-setien\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">self-titled debut album</a>, their history as collaborators, Douglas’ recent travels with Tortoise, BASIC, and Yr Knives, the role improvisation and composition plays in their respective and collaborative work, the significance of musical intuition and listening, why Elena was keen to learn more about Native American and Indigenous history and how her lyrics may reflect that knowledge, thoughts about their next record together, which I may or may not be executive producing, upcoming shows, other future plans, and much more.</p><p><br></p><p>EVERY OTHER COMPLETE <em>KREATIVE KONTROL</em> EPISODE IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO PATREON SUPPORTERS STARTING AT $6/MONTH. This one is fine, but if you haven’t already, <a href=\"https://www.patreon.com/kreativekontrol/membership\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">please subscribe now on Patreon</a> so you never miss full episodes. Thanks!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks to <a href=\"http://www.bookshelf.ca/home\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">the Bookshelf</a>, <a href=\"http://www.planetbeancoffee.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Planet Bean Coffee</a>, and <a href=\"https://www.grandads.ca/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Grandad’s Donuts.</a></p><p>Support <a href=\"https://yess.org/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Y.E.S.S.</a>, <a href=\"https://pridecentreofedmonton.ca/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Pride Centre of Edmonton</a>, and <a href=\"https://www.letterscharity.org/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Letters Charity</a>. Follow <a href=\"https://linktr.ee/vishkhanna\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">vish online</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>Related episodes/links:</p><p><strong>&nbsp;</strong></p><p><a href=\"https://www.patreon.com/kreativekontrol/posts/win-youve-by-and-162678416?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&amp;utm_source=copyLink&amp;utm_campaign=postshare_creator&amp;utm_content=join_link\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Win You’ve Changed Records by Fiver and G̱amksimoon in August 2026!</a></p><p><a href=\"http://vishkhanna.com/2026/02/19/ep-1069-the-messthetics-and-james-brandon-lewis/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ep. #1069: The Messthetics and James Brandon Lewis</a></p><p><a href=\"http://vishkhanna.com/2026/01/08/ep-1055-pullman/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ep. #1055: Pullman</a></p><p><a href=\"http://vishkhanna.com/2025/12/16/ep-1049-rebecca-foon-and-aliayta-foon-dancoes/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ep. #1049: Rebecca Foon and Aliayta Foon-Dancoes</a></p><p><a href=\"http://vishkhanna.com/2025/10/14/ep-1026-tortoise/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ep. #1026: Tortoise</a></p><p><a href=\"http://vishkhanna.com/2024/05/23/ep-871-bill-mackay/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ep. #871: Bill MacKay</a></p><p><a href=\"http://vishkhanna.com/2023/06/29/ep-786-black-duck/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ep. #786: Black Duck</a></p><p><a href=\"http://vishkhanna.com/2022/11/29/ep-736-douglas-andrew-mccombs/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ep. #736: Douglas Andrew McCombs</a></p><p><a href=\"http://vishkhanna.com/2022/07/21/ep-704-sam-prekop-and-john-mcentire/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ep. #704: Sam Prekop and John McEntire</a></p><p><a href=\"http://vishkhanna.com/2016/03/08/ep-240-a-way-thats-clear-tortoise-the-making-of-the-catastrophist/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ep. #240: A Way That’s Clear – Tortoise &amp; The Making of ‘The Catastrophist’</a></p>","author_name":"Vish Khanna / Entertainment One (eOne)"}