{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/2c2eab86-45bd-53ae-b72f-f474f0e08bc9/6893eb1586fca13628cd1ce3?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"In the dead centre","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/6113e8578b4903809f16f7e5/1754524372803-a87cb82b-2757-4d05-b739-bf40dddf6905.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p><strong>Economist Richard Denniss joins Democracy Sausage and argues policies suffer because of our need to find the centre in any debate.</strong>&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>What does pragmatism really mean for Australian politics?&nbsp;How do attempts at unity constrain political debate?&nbsp;And how do evidence, position and politics interact in policymaking?&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>On this episode of <strong>Democracy Sausage</strong>, Dr Richard Denniss and Professor Mark Kenny talk about the reality of pragmatic politics.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Richard Denniss</strong> is an economist and the Executive Director of the Australia Institute. He is also the author of <a href=\"https://www.booktopia.com.au/dead-centre-how-political-pragmatism-is-killing-us-richard-denniss/book/9781763662148.html?srsltid=AfmBOoqISGmnJlTt5qhNrNpgN6hgCrRLv86EQPiodIAKl0GhmFVLIsTI\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Dead Centre: How political pragmatism is killing us</em></a>.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Mark Kenny</strong> is the Director of the ANU Australian Studies Institute. He came to the University after a high-profile journalistic career including six years as chief political correspondent and national affairs editor for <em>The Sydney Morning Herald</em>, <em>The Age</em> and <em>The Canberra Times</em>.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><em>Democracy Sausage with Mark Kenny is available on </em><a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/democracy-sausage-with-mark-kenny/id1459965243?mt=2&amp;ls=1\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Apple Podcasts</em></a><em>, </em><a href=\"https://open.spotify.com/show/20Ko99T4ZcJdGey9hltGZa\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Spotify</em></a><em>, </em><a href=\"https://pca.st/podcast/4bcd93e0-450e-0137-f266-1d245fc5f9cf\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Pocket Casts</em></a><em>, </em><a href=\"https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9yc3Muc2ltcGxlY2FzdC5jb20vcG9kY2FzdHMvMTA4NDIvcnNz\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Google Podcasts</em></a><em> or wherever you get your podcasts. We’d love to hear your feedback on this series, so send in your questions, comments or suggestions for future episodes to </em><a href=\"mailto:democracysausage@anu.edu.au\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>democracysausage@anu.edu.au</em></a><em>.</em>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>This podcast is produced by <a href=\"https://www.anu.edu.au/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">The Australian National University</a>.&nbsp;</p>","author_name":"The Australian National University"}