{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/170f7fea-3078-4315-9c6b-57b666e73855/6a982c53054653259a67f5a9?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Beyond Finger Pointing: The Fight to Lower Health Care Costs","description":"<p>In a live conversation recorded at Aspen Ideas: Health, executives from a hospital, insurer and pharmacy join a top Trump administration official and leading health economist to discuss how to collectively bring down health care costs.</p><p><br></p><p>Guests:</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href=\"https://www.cms.gov/about-cms/who-we-are/leadership/stephanie-carlton\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Stephanie Carlton</strong></a><strong>, Deputy Administrator, Centers for Medicare &amp; Medicaid Services</strong></li><li><a href=\"https://www.mountsinai.org/about/executive-leadership/brendan-carr\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Brendan Carr</strong></a>, CEO, Mount Sinai Health System</li><li><a href=\"https://cutler.scholars.harvard.edu/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>David Cutler</strong></a>, Professor of Applied Economics, Harvard University</li><li><a href=\"https://www.cvshealth.com/about/leadership/katerina-guerraz.html\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Katerina Guerraz</strong></a>, Chief Operating Officer, Aetna; President, Aetna Medicaid</li><li><a href=\"https://www.aspenideas.org/speakers/john-love\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>John Love</strong></a><strong>, </strong>Vice President, Amazon Pharmacy</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Watch a <a href=\"https://tradeoffs.org/2026/09/03/beyond-finger-pointing-the-fight-to-lower-health-care-costs/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">video of this conversation</a> at Aspen Ideas: Health, along with <a href=\"https://tradeoffs.org/2026/07/02/making-medical-decisions-with-uncertain-science/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">another conversation about medical uncertainty</a> moderated by our host Dan Gorenstein.</p><p><br></p><p>This episode was produced by Ryan Levi and mixed by Andrew Parrella.</p><p><br></p><p>The Tradeoffs theme song was composed by Ty Citerman.</p><p><br></p><p>Special thanks to Ifrah Asmat, Eric Baker, Tonya Bauer, Katie Taylor and Ryan Zynger.</p><p><br></p><p>Learn more: Read the full reporting and explore additional resources <a href=\"https://tradeoffs.org/2026/09/03/beyond-finger-pointing-the-fight-to-lower-health-care-costs/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">on our website</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>Want more Tradeoffs? Join more than 5,500 readers who trust Tradeoffs for clear, deeply reported health policy insights. <a href=\"https://tradeoffs.org/about/subscribe/?utm_campaign=show_notes&amp;utm_source=web&amp;utm_medium=referral\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Sign up for our free weekly newsletter</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>Tradeoffs helps you cut through the noise with clear, deeply reported journalism on the forces driving health care's toughest choices — reporting you won't find anywhere else. If our work helps you stay informed, <a href=\"https://tradeoffs.fundjournalism.org/donate/?utm_campaign=show_notes&amp;utm_source=web&amp;utm_medium=referral\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">support it with a donation today</a>.</p>","author_name":"Tradeoffs"}