{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/170f7fea-3078-4315-9c6b-57b666e73855/69d6a4ce086c93c18bc3e572?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"High Health Care Costs Are Fueling a New Fight Over Old Laws","description":"<p>The White House wants states to drop certificate of need laws in hopes of lowering health care costs. Researchers and state leaders are split.</p><p><br></p><p>Guests:</p><ul><li><a href=\"https://www.gertie.nyc/about\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Nate Adler</a>, founder, Gertie</li><li><a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-mitchell-1536b8b/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Matthew Mitchell</a>, senior fellow, Fraser Institute; senior affiliated scholar, Mercatus Center at George Mason University</li><li><a href=\"https://www.law.northwestern.edu/faculty/profiles/jillhorwitz/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Jill Horwitz</a>, professor, Northwestern University Pritzker School of Law and Feinberg School of Medicine</li><li><a href=\"https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/LegislatorInfo/Member?district=S11&amp;ga=114\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Bo Watson</a>, Tennessee state senator</li><li><a href=\"https://legislature.vermont.gov/people/single/2026/34710\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Alyssa Black</a>, Vermont state representative</li><li><a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-cooper-5b55b61/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Amy Cooper,</a> founder, board president Green Mountain Surgery Center</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Learn more and read a full transcript on <a href=\"https://tradeoffs.org/2026/04/09/high-health-care-costs-are-fueling-a-new-fight-over-old-laws\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">our website</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>Want more Tradeoffs? Sign up for our free <a href=\"https://tradeoffs.us3.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=6ab1fc39a0b1b15521551487c&amp;id=89c5edcb93&amp;utm_source=twitter-newsletter-signup&amp;utm_medium=twitter\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">weekly newsletter</a> featuring the latest health policy research and news.</p><p><br></p><p>Support this type of journalism today, <a href=\"https://tradeoffs.org/donate\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">with a gift</a>.</p>","author_name":"Tradeoffs"}