{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/170f7fea-3078-4315-9c6b-57b666e73855/6696ebd513ea555fe3607bf1?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"The Fifth Branch: Convincing the Cops","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/61435631f581aac8b8520e65/1721226858778-4d009b42a8ca21fc9a2653756c6d6a68.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>How do you convince police officers that it makes sense to send unarmed mental health workers to some 911 calls?</p><p><br></p><p>Guests:</p><p><br></p><p><a href=\"https://www.durhamnc.gov/directory.aspx?EID=1247\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Patrice Andrews</a>, Police Chief, Durham Police Department</p><p><a href=\"https://www.durhamnc.gov/directory.aspx?EID=1302\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ryan Smith</a>, Director, Durham Department of Community Safety</p><p><a href=\"https://www.durhamnc.gov/directory.aspx?EID=738\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Sgt. Dan Leeder</a>, Durham Police Department</p><p><a href=\"https://www.durhamnc.gov/directory.aspx?EID=1316\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Abena Bediako</a>, Clinical Manager, Durham Department of Community Safety</p><p><a href=\"https://www.themarshallproject.org/staff/christie-thompson\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Christie Thompson</a>, Staff Writer, The Marshall Project</p><p><br></p><p>EMS, Fire, Police and the 911 Call Center make up the existing four branches of the public safety system. A special series from <a href=\"https://open.acast.com/networks/6143566ba058d40012876e19/shows/61435631f581aac8b8520e65/episodes/tradeoffs.org\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Tradeoffs</a> and <a href=\"https://open.acast.com/networks/6143566ba058d40012876e19/shows/61435631f581aac8b8520e65/episodes/themarshallproject.org\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">The Marshall Project</a> explores how a city radically changes its response to people in crisis, by creating a fifth branch.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Nearly half of the country’s 50 largest cities - including San Francisco, New York, Houston, Chicago - have launched programs to send unarmed responders to 911 calls historically handled by cops. In the process creating a new generation of first responders made up of<strong> </strong>clinicians, EMTs and unarmed mental health workers all responding to people who struggle with addiction, homelessness and mental illness.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>To understand this work we head to Durham, North Carolina, which has - in the face of skepticism and downright opposition - built one of the most comprehensive programs in the country.</p><p><br></p><p>How did Durham pull off what so many cities have struggled to do? Tradeoffs and The Marshall Project examine this groundbreaking work and the challenges it’s facing, both&nbsp;in Durham and around the country.</p><p><br></p><p>Learn more on <a href=\"https://tradeoffs.org/2024/07/18/the-fifth-branch-convincing-the-cops\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">our website</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>Want more Tradeoffs? Sign up for our free <a href=\"https://tradeoffs.us3.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=6ab1fc39a0b1b15521551487c&amp;id=89c5edcb93&amp;utm_source=twitter-newsletter-signup&amp;utm_medium=twitter\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">weekly newsletter</a> featuring the latest health policy research and news.</p><p><br></p><p>Support this type of journalism today, <a href=\"https://tradeoffs.org/donate\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">with a gift</a>.</p>","author_name":"Tradeoffs"}