{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/1354251d-765d-4d91-b940-b43f7fac9d73/f7952bc1-988b-48e8-86c0-6076078ea0e1?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"2018/19 - Episode 38 - \"PAY THE REF!\"","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/60f5f3b592b8225a7f194eba/6103236f3fc854001a027a83.jpg?height=200","description":"<p>In this edition of WMS, in association with ALS, the lads are joined by Sunderland Echo writer Phil Smith to discuss our 1-1 draw with Luton Town.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Our own Craig Clark was out and about on Saturday with a special guest too. Bilde journalist Tim Osing headed over to see what Sunderland was all about. They caught up with travelling St Mirren fans making a SoL pilgrimage in honour of Jack Ross, and chatted with Lee Cattermole.</p> ","author_name":"Wise Men Say"}