{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/11a7f7fa-c58e-5d12-a59c-8b912694d5f2/691fa9a6087c4173ab390004?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Why a short hop from Newcastle to London Heathrow might involve going around in circles","description":"<p>In the second part of my conversation with Martin Rolfe, chief executive of NATS – formerly National Air Traffic Services – we discuss the need to modernise the skies, why aircraft holding to land at London Heathrow are necessary and how air-traffic controllers will handle extra runways at Gatwick and Heathrow.</p><p><br></p><p>This podcast is free, as is Independent Travel's weekly newsletter. Sign up <a href=\"https://www.independent.co.uk/newsletters\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">here</a> to get it delivered to your inbox.</p>","author_name":"The Independent"}