Madison Utendahl returns to the show on the heels of an incredible career pivot and with her burnout in check. Madison has appeared as a guest on the show in her capacity as the Webby-Award-winning and Forbes 30 Under 30 director of the Utendahl Creative Branding Studio, and founding member of Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, Refinery29’s 29Rooms, and Museum of Ice Cream. Today she arrives as the Founder of Utendahl Consulting, the magnetic voice behind BURNT on Substack, and a fractional CMO. Madison has proven that she can do it all, and her nervous system tells the story of what happens when she does. During our conversation, we talked all about what having massive ambition and a work ethic in overdrive costs and how she’s healing in public.
During our chat, Madison walks us through her earliest experiences with ambition, success, and burnout in school and work. She shared that she always knew she wanted more from life than others, and that she was willing to do whatever it took to achieve it. And while she has achieved incredible success, Madison has also learned difficult lessons about burnout and how it manifests itself in her body and mind. We talked about how she came to understand when she needs to take a step back and sometimes away from her professional pursuits and pivot to something new. Madison explained that this can mean a career change, shuttering a successful business, or trying non-Western therapies to find peace and healing. In this incredibly transparent conversation, Madison opens up about the highs and lows of building a fulfilling career and defining success on her own terms and with her mental health intact.
Tune in as we discuss:
8:55 How Being Raised In New York Shaped Her Work Ethic
16:00 Her Burnout Triggers
17:50 Taking A Sequential Approach To Life
26:55 How Burnout Shows Up In Her Body
33:33 Experiencing Burnout As An Entrepreneur
40:20 Why She Turned Down A Multi-Million Dollar Opportunity
43:03 How She Ethically Closed Utendahl Creative
49:08 How She Became An Artist and CMO
50:45 Why She Turned To Non-Western Therapy
54:45 Dealing With Intergenerational Trauma & Anxiety
59:00 The Hoffman Process and Ketamine Therapy
01:08:14 How She Navigates Estrangement With Her Mother
01:10:25 Designing Her Day
01:24:01 When She Feels The Most Beautiful
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