Today's guest is Brittany Howard — four-time Grammy winner, the voice of Alabama Shakes, and one of the most singular artists of her generation. But her real story isn't the accolades or the sold-out rooms. It's a single-wide trailer, a junkyard full of animals, and a garbage truck — and a woman who never once chased any of it.
From a Cotton Patch trailer park to Paisley Park, Brittany built a career by refusing to do it the way you're supposed to. She carries three things simultaneously that most artists never figure out how to hold at once: an obsessive craftsman's ear (she'll stab an amp with a screwdriver to find a tone), an unbudging authenticity (she showed up to the deal that changed her life hungover, in her pajamas, in a mail truck), and a total indifference to the machine (0% involvement in her own charts, streams, and licensing).
This is one of the more honest conversations we've had about staying true to yourself in music.
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Timestamps
0:00 Intro
2:09 Is hunting for tone a fool's errand?
4:02 \"Happy accidents\" — taste vs. preference
6:22 Stabbing an amp with a screwdriver for the perfect tone
9:02 Born in a single-wide in Cotton Patch trailer park
10:53 \"Are we rich now?\" — a junkyard, 96 cats, 26 dogs
12:53 Picking up guitar out of necessity (she wanted to play bass)
17:00 Recording songs at 12 on Audacity, alone in the woods
18:45 The At the Drive-In shirt — meeting Zach
19:33 Mom: \"I didn't know you could sing\" / \"Me either\"
20:46 Her first song ever
28:59 The label meeting: hungover, in pajamas, in a mail truck
32:22 Writing \"Hold On\" in a garbage truck
33:27 Making up the whole song live on stage at The Brick
37:06 How a record deal did (and didn't) change how she lived
44:01 \"Do I have any money?\" — buying her first house
46:07 Meeting Shawn Everett & Blake Mills for Sound & Color
52:51 Talking to Prince on the phone — and his list of rules
54:17 Playing \"Gimme All Your Love\" with Prince — \"did he change his mind?\"
56:49 How Alabama Shakes came back together
59:15 Rapid fire + \"Leave music to the people who love music\"
Credits
Hosted by Ross Golan
Produced by Joe London & Jad Saad
Edited by Jad Saad
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