{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/05db9598-9baf-443a-ab69-21a77284c034/68220ad1ca72734652246b08?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Ep. 210: Jon Bellion | Art Over Algorithm, Always","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/61b76666169562d85de9508f/1747060843598-fd4c5413-569f-4e8b-88ce-e5a284588a16.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Today’s guest is one of the most original minds in modern music—a genre-defying powerhouse who returns to this podcast six years after his first unforgettable visit. Hailing from Long Island, this producer, performer, and lyrical architect has built a sonic universe entirely his own. He’s the mastermind behind cinematic pop records that blur the line between the underground and the mainstream, with a resume that spans from crafting platinum hits for chart-toppers to delivering soul-baring solo projects that redefine authenticity. Now a father of three, his creativity has only deepened, as he balances vulnerability and virtuosity with relentless hustle. He’s not just a hitmaker—he’s a visionary, a builder, and a storyteller for a generation that craves depth. And the writer is… Jon Bellion!</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Episode Timestamps:</strong></p><p><br></p><p>0:00 Bellion’s Return &amp; Industry Fire&nbsp;</p><p>0:36 Ross ATWI&nbsp;Intro</p><p>2:05 Supporting Songwriters’ Rights&nbsp;</p><p>2:41 Jon Bellion Returns After 6 Years&nbsp;</p><p>3:56 Jon vs. the Algorithm&nbsp;</p><p>6:56 AI, Effort &amp; Meaning&nbsp;</p><p>9:22 Craft Over Convenience&nbsp;</p><p>11:57 Identity, Process &amp; Philosophy&nbsp;</p><p>18:21 Credit, Ego &amp; Industry Power&nbsp;</p><p>25:32 Sponsor Message from NMPA</p><p>27:09 Staying Dangerous with Purpose&nbsp;</p><p>32:06 Becoming the Label&nbsp;</p><p>45:07 Removing Ego from the Process&nbsp;</p><p>50:41 Returning to Joy in Creation&nbsp;</p><p>54:58 Art vs. Math in Production&nbsp;</p><p>57:23 Hits Beyond the U.S.&nbsp;</p><p>1:05:16 On Raising Creative Kids&nbsp;</p><p>1:07:52 Jon's Words of Advice to His Younger Self</p><p>1:18:06 Grief, Healing &amp; Writing Through Loss&nbsp;</p><p>1:22:32 What Success Really Means in 2025&nbsp;</p><p>1:25:00 Writing vs. Recognition&nbsp;</p><p>1:47:58 ATWI Credits &amp; Closing Reflections</p>","author_name":"And The Writer Is"}