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Like pulling teeth.

Season 8, Ep. 7

When a car hit Susan and knocked out a bunch of teeth, her health insurance was supposed to pay for her oral surgery, and she knew it. So why has she had to chase them for 18 months and counting? 


Getting insurance to pay for anything dental is usually hard, but this had us asking ourselves… is it usually this hard? 


We connected Susan with law professor Jacqueline Fox — who, when she was practicing law, fought insurers on behalf of patients. And who says Susan has “done everything right.”


We’ve started to wonder whether Susan’s troubles could be related to broader accusations against her insurer, Ambetter, the largest provider of plans on the Obamacare marketplace.  


Here’s a transcript of this episode.


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