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#66 – My Wife and I Built a Business Together – This Is How We Made It Work: Joe Fraher

Ep. 66
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Starting a business is hard.


Starting one with your spouse? That’s a whole different level of risk.


In this episode, I sit down with Joe Fraher, an architect who, alongside his wife Liz, built a boutique design and build firm in Central London, right in the middle of the 2008 financial crisis.


Joe shares the real story behind how they made it work: from opposite views on risk, to navigating financial pressure, managing a growing team, and raising a family at the same time. He opens up about going sober, leading through chaos, and the mindset it takes to grow something meaningful without losing your relationship, or yourself.


This is an honest conversation about ambition, business, marriage, and the messy parts in between.


  • Giving up alcohol to take control of his life again
  • Redefining success beyond money and titles
  • Teaching his children about wealth, risk, and responsibility
  • Balancing love, family, and business without losing either
  • And why the future of construction lies in digital manufacturing and AI


This is a raw and revealing conversation about what it really takes to build something meaningful, and the mindset shifts required to survive it.


00:00 Introduction to Risk-Taking

00:41 Starting the Business Journey

00:57 Architectural Services and Turnkey Solutions

02:08 Challenges and Growth in Architecture

03:29 Navigating Redundancy and Building a Business

07:52 Managing a Growing Team

09:14 The Importance of Risk and Ambition

11:08 The French Alps Project

15:15 Hiring and Team Dynamics

22:25 Education and Career Pathways

29:02 Client Relationships and Long-Term Projects

31:49 Liz's Role in the Business

32:14 The Importance of Listening to Clients

32:44 Emotional Investment in Projects

35:22 Client Profiling and Matching

37:55 Trust and Transparency in Business

38:34 Adapting to Economic Challenges

45:35 Leveraging AI in Business

52:32 Financial Education and Generational Wealth

01:02:55 Leveraging Good Debt

01:03:36 The Pitfalls of Bad Debt

01:05:02 Balancing Risk in Family and Business

01:06:23 Aligning Ambitions with Your Partner

01:09:36 The Future of Work and Personal Goals

01:13:32 Challenges of Entrepreneurship

01:14:44 The Impact of Government Policies on SMEs

01:25:59 Personal Habits for Success

01:30:42 Concluding Thoughts


Discover Joe and Fraher


Website - https://www.fraher.co/


Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/frahergroup/


LinkedIn - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/joseph-fraher


Get In Touch


LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jay-lawrence-5a4b3357/


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