After Work Drinks

Surprise! It’s an early edition of After Work Drinks this week because let’s be honest, there’s nothing we’re going to want to talk about more than the Michael Jackson documentary (and shocking allegations of abuse in Leaving Neverland). Unlike R. Kelly’s ‘Ignition’, it feels futile and impossible to try and ban or remove Michael Jackson’s music so, if we believe Wade and James, how do we move forward? And why, after all we’ve learned from #MeToo, are we still seeing the credibility of victims be viciously undermined? Plus, on a lighter note, we have a few good watches, reads and listens to ingest and Zadie Smith’s tip for productivity. This episode deals with heavy issues including childhood sexual abuse. While we made the conscious decision not to discuss the allegations in any graphic detail, the topic may be distressing for some listeners. If you feel you need help, the below resources are helpful: Lifeline: 13 11 14 1800 RESPECT: 1800 737 732 ChildWise: 1300 244 539 Recommendations: Calypso by David Sedaris https://www.booktopia.com.au/calypso-david-sedaris/prod9781408707821.html The White Album by Joan Didion https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-white-album-joan-didion/prod9780374532079.html Russian Doll on Netflix https://www.netflix.com/title/80211627 Exposed: The Case of Keli Lane on ABC https://iview.abc.net.au/show/exposed-the-case-of-keli-lane Esther Perel in the New Yorker https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-new-yorker-interview/love-is-not-a-permanent-state-of-enthusiasm-an-interview-with-esther-perel ‘Where Should We Begin?’ by Esther Perel season three on Audible https://www.audible.com.au/pd/Esther-Perels-Where-Should-We-Begin-The-Arc-of-Love-Audiobook/B07H7P2DPR Difficult Women by Roxanne Gay https://www.hachette.com.au/roxane-gay/difficult-women The Cut on Tuesdays https://www.gimletmedia.com/the-cut-on-tuesdays The OA - Netflix https://www.netflix.com/title/80044950 Zadie Smith on The Toure Show https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/cadence13/toure-show/e/53184632 Leaving Neverland by Dan Reed and HBO https://tenplay.com.au/channel-ten/leaving-neverland/2019/3/leaving-neverland--part-2 'Reckoning with the Real Michael Jackson' The New York Times' The Daily https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/08/podcasts/the-daily/michael-jackson-abuse-leaving-neverland.html The Michael Jackson accusers: ‘The abuse didn’t feel strange, because he was like a god’ by Hadley Freeman in The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/mar/04/the-michael-jackson-accusers-the-abuse-didnt-feel-strange-because-he-was-like-a-god ‘Why Oprah’s ‘Neverland’ special was so important’ by Taylor Weatherby for Billboard https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/8501577/why-oprahs-leaving-neverland-special-was-so-important