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Jonathan Sabbagh /Journey Clinical - Empowered psychedelic therapists can change lives
Let’s celebrate. This is episode 100!
My guest is Jonathan Sabbagh, Co-Founder of Journey Clinical and I talk about normalising Ketamine therapy for all, plus why PTSD can fire up your career - until you realize it is harmful to you. Since a few years I am following Jonathan and his wife and Co-Founder Myriam Barthe’s great work around the idea to
build a strong, decentralized network and offerings for KAP (Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy) to empower as much therapists as possible to execute the therapy.
They did an incredible and successful job to make Ketamine therapy available and build a strong system in collaboration with therapists and doctors.
In this episode is talk to Jonathan about:
-how PTSD can give you a skyrocketing career, until you realiize your “energy” is trauma in disguise
-how we both were very good in PTSD friendly jobs (banking & media) and left them because we realised our own PTSD
-how Journey Clinical helps therapists to support their patients with ketamine therapy, (eventually psilocybin) if they are interested in trying and
why normal “therapy” needs a strong transformation
What Journey Clinical does
Journey Clinical is on a mission to transform the growing mental health crisis by accelerating the mainstream adoption of legal, evidence-based Psychedelic-Assisted Psychotherapy as the standard of care for mental health, starting with Ketamine-Assisted Psychotherapy. They have built a leading platform for Psychedelic-Assisted Psychotherapy in the US. They also recently announce a research collaboration agreement with Compass Pathways to inform the development of a scalable delivery and training model for COMP360 psilocybin treatment. Which means, together with Compass, they work on a future delivery model for psilocybin therapy.
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52:06||Ep. 101Get ready for an exhilarating ride! Today, I’m joined by the incredible Jon Hopkins, a Grammy-winning artist revolutionizing the psychedelic music scene. We dive into his latest album, RITUAL, alongside his collaborator, Dan (aka 7rays).Picture this: our podcast unfolds in an unusual setting — a children's room adorned with an army of plastic soldiers! Jon's mesmerizing soundscapes transcend the ordinary, transporting listeners to new dimensions, whether on or off psychedelics. With a history of collaboration with legends like Brian Eno, Coldplay, and David Holmes, and a milestone album, Music for Psychedelic Therapy, under his belt, Jon crafts powerful soundtracks for mind-bending journeys. we uncover the magic behind his creative genius, the stories that inspire his compositions, and the transformative power of music and reality, all while exploring the allure of RITUAL.@mrjonhopkins (IG) @7rays-devon99. Elise Loehnen - My Journey with MDMA Healing
55:13||Ep. 99I have the pleasure of speaking with Elise Loehnen, one of my favourite authors whose storytelling resonates deeply with me. We share a journey of realizing the toll of overwork, anxiety, and the pursuit of wellness as a cure-all, only to discover the transformative power of psychedelics.Elise's expertise in content creation was evident during her tenure as the chief content officer at goop, where she co-hosted The goop Podcast and The goop Lab on Netflix. Her role involved spearheading content strategy, including the successful launch of a magazine with Condé Nast and a book imprint. With a Bachelor's degree from Yale, majoring in English and Fine Arts, and a rich media career, Elise brings a wealth of experience to her work.Now based in Los Angeles with her husband, Rob, and their sons, Max and Sam, Elise continues to inspire through her writing and editing. As the host of Pulling the Thread, a podcast with Cadence13, she engages cultural luminaries on pressing questions for our society in featuring notable figures like Dr. Gabor Maté and Dr. Temple Grandin. Despite co-authoring twelve books, including five New York Times Best Sellers, Elise's latest venture, her first book under her own name, "On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Price Women Pay to Be Good," has captured attention as an instant New York Times bestseller.Our conversation naturally gravitates towards psychedelics, exploring the pivotal role MDMA played in Elise's journey, her transformative experiences with 5 MEO Dot, and the evolving landscape of psychedelic exploration in adulthood.”@eliselohenenhttps://www.eliseloehnen.com/https://www.eliseloehnen.com/episodes98. Dr. Shauheen Etminan - How to apply Eastern Psychoactive Secrets to Thrive
01:08:52||Ep. 98This episode is sponsored by Magi Ancestral Supplements, whose leading team of neuroscientists, ethnophamacologists, and phytochemists, has unlocked the formulation of an ancient Eastern psychoactive elixir that was lost to time.Lets talk about ancient alchemy today! Today I chat with Dr. Shauheen Etminan, the founder of VCENNA an advanced biotech company specializing in natural drug discovery for mental health, seamlessly blends ancient Eastern medicine with modern science. As a scientist, researcher, product developer, and dedicated entrepreneur, Dr. Etminan is committed to creating holistic wellness solutions rooted in the convergence of medicine and …mysticism. Armed with an MSc and Ph.D. in Chemical Engineering, Dr. Etminan's expertise extends beyond the technicals. He is a mystic who has been practicing Sufi whirling meditation for many years, reflecting his deep commitment to holistic well-being. Renowned as a world expert in phytochemical extraction technology, Dr. Etminan explores the realm of psychedelics with a particular focus on ancient texts. Dr. Etminan and his team have unveiled neurological health properties in beta-carbolines. This groundbreaking discovery has led to the formulation and launch of multiple psychoactive supplements designed to promote longevity, mindfulness, and therapeutic benefits under Magi Ancestral Supplements.Ancestral Magi is co-founded by Dr. Shauheen Etminan and has the legendary Dr. Dennis McKenna on its scientific advisory board. They have combined modern neuroscience with ancient Eastern medicine to formulate 100% natural nootropic supplements that are psychoactive and legal!Magi's products' primary group of compounds are beta-carbolines extracted from the sacred plant, Espand, also known as Syrian rue. Their products promote neuro-longevity, mindfulness, and mental wellbeing. Did you know that Espand has the same psychoactive compounds that exist in the Ayahuasca vine? I'm not relating to DMT, but beta-carbolines. Experience the magic of their supplement, Stard, Magi's meditation supplement, which has been my favorite. It provides 60 to 75 minutes of pure bliss, where the mind stops wandering and can be present in the here and now. (Whether you're new to meditation or a seasoned practitioner, Stard is an ancestral catalyst that will take you further on your journey) Magi’s supplements are fully legal and currently available in the US. Stay tuned, as they will be available in Europe in July. Check their website out at www.ancestral.magi.com.As the valued audience of The New Health Club podcast, you can use the coupon TNHC10 to get a 10% discount.Follow MagiInstagram @ancestralmagiWebsite: www.ancestralmagi.comShop here: Magi Homepage: https://ancestralmagi.com/ref/9/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=&utm_campaign=THNC.D1.Q22024&utm_id=20240606Magi Shop Page: https://ancestralmagi.com/shop/ref/9/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=TNHC&utm_campaign=THNC.D1.Q22024&utm_id=20240606Magi Stard Meditation Supplement: https://ancestralmagi.com/product/stard-deep-meditation-supplement/ref/9/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=TNHC&utm_campaign=THNC.D1.Q22024&utm_id=2024060697. Madison Margolin - Exile, Ecstasy And The Jewish Psychedelic Underground
01:09:07||Ep. 97Today I am speaking with Madison Margolin, an author, journalist, editor, consultant, educator, and guide to all things Jewish-Psychedelic. She is the also the former Co-Founder of the Double Blind magazine about the new culture of psychedelics. Her book. Exile and Ecstasy Growing Up with Ram Dass and Coming of Age in the Jewish Psychedelic Underground is pretty fascinating.Exile and Ecstasy sets out to explore the psychedelic path that occupies the crossroads between the Ram Dass movement and Judaism. It’s a path of seeking and escape, rebellion and return, medicine and magic. It’s a path that ultimately points toward home.Through the perspective of having grown up among “HinJews” in the Ram Dass community and in the cannabis legalisation movement, journalist Madison Margolin takes the us on a journey inside New York’s Jewish counterculture and the Hasidic underground, reconciling her roots, tackling ancestral Jewish trauma, and finding intersectionality between the Jewish and psychedelic experience. This book is for anyone looking to feel spiritually kindled, to make peace with where they come from, and to reconcile seemingly disparate experiences of spirituality and psychedelics with traditional religion.I think in these times we live in, books like this are really necessary.https://www.madisonmargolin.com/96. Ingmar de Gooijer - We can heal ourselves - with psychedelics
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01:54:13||Ep. 94I wrote 40 e-mails to Carl Hart to ask him for a podcast. and I would have written 50.To me he is one of the most fascinating scientist that came on the radar in the context of the psychedelic renaissance a few years ago. Finally two weeks ago, I was able to talk to him at Neue House in New York. Dr. Carl L. Hart, Ziff Professor at Columbia University and former chair of the Department of Psychology. is is one of the world's preeminent experts on the effects of so-called recreational drugs on the human mind and body. Dr. Carl Hart is open about the fact that he uses drugs himself, in a happy balance with the rest of his full and productive life as a researcher and professor, husband, father, and friend. In his book Drug Use for Grown-Ups, Hart draws on decades of research and his own personal experience to argue definitively that the criminalization and demonization of drug use--not drugs themselves--have been a tremendous scourge on America, not least in reinforcing this country's enduring structural racism.Dr. Hart did not always have this view. He came of age in one of Miami's most troubled neighborhoods at a time when many ills were being laid at the door of crack cocaine. His initial work as a researcher was aimed at proving that drug use caused bad outcomes. But one problem kept cropping up: the evidence from his research did not support his hypothesis. From inside the massively well-funded research arm of the American war on drugs, he saw how the facts did not support the ideology. The truth was dismissed and distorted in order to keep fear and outrage stoked, the funds rolling in, and Black and brown bodies behind bars. "Drug Use for Grown-Ups" is controversial, but Carl's way of talking about the war on drugs and how it brought us here where we are in terms of body autonomy, is fascinating. In this podcast we discuss all kinds of things around drugs, but mainly we talk about the autonomy of body and mind.https://psychology.columbia.edu/content/carl-harthttps://drcarlhart.com/https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/534657/drug-use-for-grown-ups-by-dr-carl-l-hart/IG: @carlhart