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Are Catholics doing Christian nationalism, too? I thought that was just a Protestant thing. But just look at the court! And these other guys! How did we come from a place 100 years ago where Catholics in America were an oppressed minority, targets of anti-immigrant legislation and harassment by the KKK, to now - where a network of Catholic hardliners sit at the height of political power? Are they working hand in hand with evangelical Protestant and apostolic Pentecostal Christian nationalists? And what does that mean for the future of religious freedom in America?Dr. Karen Park is Professor of Theology and Religious Studies at St. Norbert College, in De Pere, Wisconsin. She has written widely on Marian devotion and shrines and American religion and popular culture, with work appearing in Religion Dispatches and Sojourners. She holds a PhD from the Divinity School of the University of Chicago and co-edited the book American Patroness: Marian Shrines and the Making of US Catholicism, a collection of twelve essays that examine the historical and contemporary roles of Marian shrines in US Catholicism released in early 2024 by Fordham University Press. Episode 48: The Catholic Strain of Christian NationalismGuest: Dr. Karen Park - Professor of Theology and Religious Studies, St. Norbert Collegehttps://scottaaronrogers.substack.com/subscribehttps://religiondispatches.org/author/karenpark/Complete citations at https://open.substack.com/pub/scottaaronrogers/p/episode-48-the-catholic-strain-ofHoosLeft on social media:https://www.facebook.com/hooslefthttps://hoosleft.bsky.socialhttps://www.youtube.com/@hooslefthttps://www.tiktok.com/@hooslefthttps://www.instagram.com/scottrog78/https://www.threads.net/@scottrog78https://hoosier.social/@scottrog78And once again, subscribe athttps://scottaaronrogers.substack.com/subscribe

Episode 47: Rural Progressives Are Having A Moment... And A SummitGuest: Michelle Higgs - (D) Candidate for Indiana House District 60https://scottaaronrogers.substack.com/subscribehttps://voteformichellehiggs.com/https://linktr.ee/indianaruralsummitMichelle Higgs is a community leader, wife, mom of three, and a Martinsville High School alumna. She is Hoosier through and through and loves country roads and the smell of spring rain and fresh-cut grass. Motivated by her deep faith, she strives to build a community that honors the sacredness of all.Rooted in Hoosier hospitality, Michelle decided to run to represent the people of House District 60 because she knows that when more of us can shape the decisions that impact our lives–whether at the Statehouse or in our workplace–we all do better.https://scottaaronrogers.substack.com/p/we-are-here-we-exist-we-belonghttps://www.startribune.com/beyond-his-flannel-shirt-and-camo-hat-tim-walz-has-made-his-mark-in-the-politics-of-fish-and-game/600966573https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/09/us/tim-walz-coach.htmlhttps://www.businessinsider.com/tim-walz-midwestern-dad-kamala-harris-2024-8https://www.motor1.com/news/729257/tim-walz-ford-repair/https://apnews.com/article/abortion-politics-minnesota-state-government-timothy-walz-11c3b1d5269c929e442b979ff1bac73bhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/07/tim-walz-minnesota-trans-refuge-bill/https://www.mprnews.org/story/2023/03/17/gov-signs-universal-school-meals-bill-into-lawhttps://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/house-passes-k-12-spending-package-that-includes-2-2-billion-education-boost/https://www.ohe.state.mn.us/sPages/northstarpromise.cfmhttps://www.kaaltv.com/news/approval-rates-for-minnesota-leaders/https://www.census.gov/library/stories/state-by-state.htmlhttps://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/elections/2008/results/president/national-exit-polls.html?mod=article_inlinehttps://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/01/13/us/politics/the-white-working-class-vote.html?ref=multimediahttps://scottaaronrogers.substack.com/p/episode-44-wouldnt-you-like-to-behttps://voteformichellehiggs.com/https://linktr.ee/indianaruralsummithttps://www.thenation.com/article/politics/rural-voters-democrats-biden/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/04/white-rural-rage-criticism/677967/Interview Citations:Mourdock “inflict my opinion”: https://rollcall.com/2012/06/14/indiana-democrats-hit-richard-mourdock-with-first-spot/School choice hurts rural areas: https://www.ncpecoalition.org/ruralvouchers$1 School Law: https://indianacitizen.org/bargain-buildings-charter-school-dollar-law-may-have-new-life/Todd Huston benefits from school privatization: https://indianacapitalchronicle.com/2023/03/24/virtual-school-funding-increase-aids-house-speakers-client/Cliff Effect: https://www.circlesusa.org/research/cliff-effect/Evangelicals changed positions on abortion: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/10/abortion-history-right-white-evangelical-1970s-00031480Phyllis Schlafly’s long-game: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/06/obituaries/phyllis-schlafly-conservative-leader-and-foe-of-era-dies-at-92.htmlInstitutional owners of single-family homes: https://nlihc.org/resource/gao-releases-report-institutional-investments-single-family-rental-housingHoosLeft on social media:https://www.facebook.com/hooslefthttps://hoosleft.bsky.socialhttps://www.youtube.com/@hooslefthttps://www.tiktok.com/@hooslefthttps://www.instagram.com/scottrog78/https://www.threads.net/@scottrog78https://hoosier.social/@scottrog78And once again, subscribe athttps://scottaaronrogers.substack.com/subscribe

If you’ve been following this space, you certainly already know that Indiana Republican delegates selected Noblesville pastor and avowed Christian nationalist Micah Beckwith as their nominee for lieutenant governor at their convention in mid-June. With that as a jumping off point, we spoke with IU-Indianapolis sociology professor Dr. Andrew Whitehead back in Episode 41. He gave us a great 101-level introduction to Christian Nationalism, and I highly recommend listening to that conversation before diving into this episode, though it isn’t absolutely necessary.Again, using Beckwith as an entry point, we’ll be looking at a particularly virulent strain of Christian nationalism - the New Apostolic Reformation, described by the man who named and built the movement as “the most radical change in how churches operate since the Protestant Reformation.” https://scottaaronrogers.substack.com/subscribehttps://icjs.org/people/matthew-d-taylor/https://indianacapitalchronicle.com/2024/06/15/hoosier-gop-insiders-spurn-party-establishment-nominate-beckwith-for-lg/https://scottaaronrogers.substack.com/p/episode-41-handling-snakes-christianhttps://icjs.org/charismatic-revival-fury/https://www.freedomoverfascism.ushttps://bookshop.org/p/books/the-violent-take-it-by-force-the-christian-movement-that-is-threatening-our-democracy-matthew-d-taylor/21000760https://www.salon.com/2024/01/02/meet-the-new-apostolic-reformation-cutting-edge-of-the-christian-right/https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/essay/pentecostal-theology/https://survivingchurch.org/2016/10/25/c-peter-wagner-1930-2016-rip/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Jacobshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeneuticshttps://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/new-apostolic-reformation-mtg-mastriano-dutch-sheets-1234584952/https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLG6pb2Dh8yfgHsWKghqKO-rcnqm6-XN-Zhttps://lancewallnau.com/category/7-mountains/https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/seven-mountain-mandate/https://religionnews.com/2024/05/06/how-trumpism-has-pushed-a-fringe-charismatic-theology-into-the-mainstream/https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/she-led-trump-to-christ-the-rise-of-the-televangelist-who-advises-the-white-house/2017/11/13/1dc3a830-bb1a-11e7-be94-fabb0f1e9ffb_story.htmlhttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/27/paula-white-donald-trump-pastor-evangelicalshttps://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/donald-trump-2016-norman-vincent-peale-213220/https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2017-12-16/ty-article/trumps-compared-to-persian-king-cyrus-will-he-build-the-third-temple/0000017f-f882-d887-a7ff-f8e67abc0000https://x.com/RightWingWatch/status/1770873525835829639https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/mike-johnson-christian-nationalist-appeal-to-heaven-flag-1234873851/https://www.bangordailynews.com/2024/05/23/hancock/hancock-culture/mdi-maine-leonard-leo-appeal-to-heaven-flag-same-justice-alito/https://www.janetdouglasministries.com/city-gate-indiana.htmlhttps://computer.howstuffworks.com/augmented-reality.htmHoosLeft on social media:https://www.facebook.com/hooslefthttps://hoosleft.bsky.socialhttps://www.youtube.com/@hooslefthttps://www.tiktok.com/@hooslefthttps://www.instagram.com/scottrog78/https://www.threads.net/@scottrog78https://hoosier.social/@scottrog78

Episode 45: Spilling the Tea on 83Guest: Kyle Thele - (D) Candidate for Indiana State House, District 83https://scottaaronrogers.substack.com/subscribehttps://kyleforstaterep.comChristopher Judy’s record:https://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/19432/51539/149623/prohibits-the-government-from-burdening-the-exercise-of-religion#51539https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/03/26/395583706/indianas-governor-signs-religious-freedom-billhttps://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/35567/94641/149623/prohibits-the-instruction-of-human-sexuality-in-students-from-pre-k-through-grade-three#94641https://www.aclu-in.org/en/press-releases/disgraceful-dont-say-gay-bill-advances-indiana-legislature-putting-lgbtq-youth-riskhttps://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/32261/84341/149623/prohibits-transgender-girls-from-playing-on-female-sports-teams#84341https://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/31383/81452/149623/requires-presenting-valid-identification-to-request-an-absentee-ballot-online#81452https://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/33145/87612/149623/increases-requirements-for-mail-in-voting#87612https://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/34189/90715/149623/increases-restrictions-on-voter-registration#90715https://www.indianahouserepublicans.com/news/press-releases/judy-statement-on-gov.-holcomb-deploying-indiana-national-guard-for-texas-border-security-mission/https://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/36805/98671/149623/amends-state-university-tenure-promotion-and-diversity-policies#98671https://wsbt.com/news/operation-education/controversial-indiana-senate-bill-passes-house-amidst-heavy-opposition-from-academicshttps://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/21231/55615/149623/authorizes-higher-wages-for-hard-to-fill-teaching-positions#55615https://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/32260/84338/149623/prohibits-teaching-certain-concepts-on-race-gender-and-ethnicity#84338https://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/32799/86031/149623/requires-distribution-of-funds-to-certain-charter-schools#86031https://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/34977/92406/149623/authorizes-teachers-to-keep-firearms-in-classrooms#92406https://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/30500/78688/149623/authorizes-carrying-a-firearm-without-a-permit#78688https://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/34551/91302/149623/prohibits-and-criminalizes-machine-gun-conversion-devices#91302https://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/27453/70326/149623/expands-stand-your-ground-laws#70326https://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/21216/55575/149623/amends-abortion-regulations#55575https://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/24443/62458/149623/amends-abortion-regulations#62458https://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/27458/70331/149623/authorizes-health-providers-to-abstain-from-participating-in-abortion-procedures#70331https://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/33163/87729/149623/prohibits-all-abortions-unless-under-certain-circumstances#87729HoosLeft on social media:https://www.facebook.com/hooslefthttps://hoosleft.bsky.socialhttps://www.youtube.com/@hooslefthttps://www.tiktok.com/@hooslefthttps://www.instagram.com/scottrog78/https://www.threads.net/@scottrog78https://hoosier.social/@scottrog78And once again, subscribe athttps://scottaaronrogers.substack.com/subscribe

Episode 44: Wouldn’t You Like To Be a Pepper, Too?Guest: David Pepper - author; activist; former Chairman, Ohio Democratic Partyhttps://scottaaronrogers.substack.com/subscribehttps://davidpepper.comhttps://davidpepper.substack.comhttps://savedemocracy.usProgress and backlash: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/white-backlash-nothing-new/611914/Dems state-level collapse: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/10/14211994/obama-democrats-downballotExploitation of minoritarian institutions: https://www.law.georgetown.edu/public-policy-journal/in-print-2/volume-22-1-winter-2024/the-crisis-of-minority-rule-in-american-democracy/Dr. Oz’s awful abortion answer: https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/26/politics/oz-abortion-debate-pennsylvania-senate/index.htmlRepublicans project REDMAP: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/06/27/ratfcked-the-influence-of-redistrictingIndiana the OG of voter ID laws: https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-disappointed-supreme-courts-voter-id-decisionShelby v. Holder 2013: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/court-cases/shelby-county-v-holderSwiss cheese model: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_cheese_modelArticle IV Section 4: https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/article-4/section-4/Alabama seat flips after IVF ruling: https://apnews.com/article/alabama-ivf-abortion-legislature-378c3fa32dcfc2d0401f3893828482af“Motor Voter” Act: https://www.justice.gov/crt/about-national-voter-registration-actBiden admin using VA to register voters: https://www.npr.org/2024/06/30/nx-s1-5005001/biden-voter-registration-executive-orderDemocracy winning streak: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/6/24/2248335/-The-Greatest-Story-Never-Told-The-Democratic-Winning-Streakhttps://bookshop.org/contributors/david-pepperHoosLeft on social media:https://www.facebook.com/hooslefthttps://hoosleft.bsky.socialhttps://www.youtube.com/@hooslefthttps://www.tiktok.com/@hooslefthttps://www.instagram.com/scottrog78/https://www.threads.net/@scottrog78https://hoosier.social/@scottrog78And once again, subscribe athttps://scottaaronrogers.substack.com/subscribe

Episode 43: Bringing the Hurt to Washington - Part IIGuest: Erik Hurt (D) - Candidate for Indiana’s 8th Congressional Districthttps://scottaaronrogers.substack.com/subscribehttps://www.erikhurtforcongress.com/Shortage of trades workers: https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/4583268-labor-crisis-why-is-there-a-shortage-of-plumbers-and-electricians/Why the humanities matter: https://www.catalinamunoz.me/p/why-the-humanities-matter-more-thanWe have enough money for lots of stuff; billionaires are hoarding it: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/13/billionaires-taxes-inequality-one-percentCorporate extortion: https://www.governing.com/finance/tax-incentives-the-losing-gamble-states-and-cities-keep-making.htmlThey took our jobs!: https://southpark.fandom.com/wiki/%22They_took_our_jobs!%22Immigrants commit LESS crime: https://www.npr.org/2024/03/08/1237103158/immigrants-are-less-likely-to-commit-crimes-than-us-born-americans-studies-findImmigration can reverse rural population decline: https://www.fwd.us/news/rural-decline/“The unborn are a convenient group of people to advocate for”: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pastor-dave-barnhart-unborn/Messmer’s priorities: https://www.markmessmer.com/issues/Evansville Mayor Stephanie Terry: https://teamevansville.com/Terre Haute Mayor Brandon Sakbun: https://news.iu.edu/live/news/34123-from-iu-graduation-to-terre-haute-mayors-office-inHoosLeft on social media:https://www.facebook.com/hooslefthttps://hoosleft.bsky.socialhttps://www.youtube.com/@hooslefthttps://www.tiktok.com/@hooslefthttps://www.instagram.com/scottrog78/https://www.threads.net/@scottrog78https://hoosier.social/@scottrog78And once again, subscribe athttps://scottaaronrogers.substack.com/subscribe

SPECIAL EPISODE: LG Candidate Terry GoodinGuest: Terry Goodin (D) - Candidate for Lieutenant Governorhttps://scottaaronrogers.substack.com/subscribehttps://www.mccormickforgov.com/Indiana’s unusual party convention system - https://www.wfyi.org/news/articles/you-asked-what-role-state-party-conventions-play-in-indiana-weve-got-answersGoodin’s past - https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/illinois/articles/2024-06-20/mccormicks-running-mate-has-conservative-past-goodin-says-he-reversed-idea-on-abortion-marriage2018 Politico profile on Goodin - https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/11/terry-goodin-rural-democrats-indiana-216273/Jesse Brown Newsletter - https://www.jesseforindy.com/contact-usLG opponent Clif Marsiglio - https://clifmars.com/LBJ and Biden’s progressive record. - https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/04/24/lesson-lyndon-johnson-joe-biden-progressives-bernie-sanders-column/2999880001/French election results - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0478d1zrldoLucy and the football - https://slate.com/culture/2014/10/the-history-of-lucys-pulling-the-football-away-from-charlie-brown-in-peanuts.htmlHoosLeft on social media:https://www.facebook.com/hooslefthttps://hoosleft.bsky.socialhttps://www.youtube.com/@hooslefthttps://www.tiktok.com/@hooslefthttps://www.instagram.com/scottrog78/https://www.threads.net/@scottrog78https://hoosier.social/@scottrog78And once again, subscribe athttps://scottaaronrogers.substack.com/subscribe

Episode 42: Bringing the Hurt to Washington - Part IGuest: Erik Hurt (D) - Candidate for Indiana’s 8th Congressional Districthttps://scottaaronrogers.substack.com/subscribehttps://www.erikhurtforcongress.com/Indiana uncontested Statehouse seats: https://ballotpedia.org/Indiana_House_of_Representatives_elections,_2024Indiana uncontested State Senate seats: https://ballotpedia.org/Indiana_State_Senate_elections,_2024Indiana 50th in voter turnout: https://fox59.com/news/politics/in-focus-indiana-ranks-50th-in-voter-turnout/Moneyball: https://bookshop.org/p/books/moneyball-the-art-of-winning-an-unfair-game-michael-lewis/8746488Government should not be run like a business: https://hbr.org/2017/03/the-u-s-cannot-be-run-like-a-businessThe American Dream is dead: https://www.newsweek.com/american-dream-dead-opinion-1917153Meritocracy is a myth: https://www.vox.com/videos/2021/4/2/22349990/education-inequality-meritocracy-mythCollectivism a necessary virtue: https://news.un.org/en/story/2019/09/1047042The peril of rugged individualism: https://www.thehastingscenter.org/rugged-american-individualism-is-a-myth-and-its-killing-us/The radicalism of public libraries: https://depauliaonline.com/57226/opinions/opinion-are-libraries-radical/The stigma of public transportation: https://ui.charlotte.edu/story/overcoming-stigma-riding-bus/The privatization of everything: https://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/05/04/five-step-process-privatize-everythingSchools as community hubs: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/schools-as-community-hubs-integrating-support-services-to-drive-educational-outcomes/Vouchers hurt rural schools: https://www.ncpecoalition.org/ruralvouchersStocks a poor measure of the full economy: https://blogs.cfainstitute.org/investor/2023/03/17/myth-busting-the-economy-drives-the-stock-market/https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/12/occupy-wall-street-10-years-onFight for $15 not enough: https://thehill.com/lobbying/4170972-15-an-hour-isnt-enough-u-s-workers-need-to-earn-a-living-wage/USA medical wait times are long NOW: https://www.americanprogress.org/article/truth-wait-times-universal-coverage-systems/Medicare for All is actually cheaper: https://www.citizen.org/news/fact-check-medicare-for-all-would-save-the-u-s-trillions-public-option-would-leave-millions-uninsured-not-garner-savings/COVID as an argument FOR universal health care: https://ysph.yale.edu/news-article/yale-study-more-than-335000-lives-could-have-been-saved-during-pandemic-if-us-had-universal-health-care/History of attempts at universal health care in US: https://pnhp.org/a-brief-history-universal-health-care-efforts-in-the-us/Boomers pulled up the ladder on future generations: https://fortune.com/2023/10/28/great-wealth-transfer-baby-boomers-bank-of-america-millennials-government-policy/CEO pay growth since Reagan: https://www.progressivecaucuscenter.org/the-ceo-pay-problem-and-what-we-can-do-about-itEducation a matter of national defense: https://www.britannica.com/topic/National-Defense-Education-ActInterstate highway system ALSO a defense project: https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/national-interstate-and-defense-highways-actStudent loan scandal: https://revealnews.org/article/who-got-rich-off-the-student-debt-crisis/Cost to attend IU: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/indiana-university-bloomington-1809/payingThe government can’t run out of money: https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/4/16/18251646/modern-monetary-theory-new-moment-explained

Episode 41: Handling Snakes: Christian Nationalism in IndianaGuest: Dr. Andrew Whitehead, professor at the Center for the Study of Religion and American Culture at IU-Indianapolis.https://scottaaronrogers.substack.com/subscribehttps://raac.indianapolis.iu.edu/about/who-we-are/our-staff/andrew-l-whitehead/Beckwith 3 reasons: https://fb.watch/t1GYetE-FM/Bad theology: https://www.tiktok.com/@deconstruct_with_paige/video/7194943692052925738Beckwith on Ballotpedia: https://ballotpedia.org/Micah_BeckwithGod did January 6: https://rumble.com/v51y8ro-january-7-2021-micah-beckwith-claims-god-took-credit-for-january-6-insurrec.htmlAnti-vax rally: https://crossroadsreport.substack.com/p/revolt-in-indiana-as-patriots-pickDemonic mask mandates: https://www.fortwaynepolitics.com/p/people-say-wow-thats-super-extreme4500 religious exemptions: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/micahbeckwith_micah-beckwith-did-not-sit-on-the-sidelines-activity-7201288811509653504-koeb/Moms for Liberty quotes Hitler: https://www.wfyi.org/news/articles/indiana-chapter-of-moms-for-liberty-features-hitler-quote-in-first-newsletterBeckwith appointed to library board: https://readthereporter.com/fishers-reader-has-questions-about-hepl-board-appointment/Book ban policy: https://fox59.com/news/hamilton-east-library-board-could-reverse-controversial-book-policy-with-new-member/Indiana Family Institute: https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Indiana_Family_InstituteLeaked Bopp memo: https://www.wfyi.org/news/articles/indiana-republican-memo-jim-bopp-nominee-micah-beckwith-mike-braunHow Beckwith defines Christian nationalism: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/micahbeckwith_the-people-in-the-media-like-james-briggs-activity-7207028556864856064-m26T/ARDA: https://www.thearda.com/PRRI: https://www.prri.org/Whitehead on Bookshop: https://bookshop.org/contributors/andrew-l-whitehead-fad3bfbb-c6da-4772-8c0b-b203b83275532019 Whitehead article: https://academic.oup.com/socrel/article/79/2/147/4825283Snake handling: https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/snake-handling/“In Christian nationalist Indiana…”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Soviet_RussiaHoosLeft on social media:https://www.facebook.com/hooslefthttps://hoosleft.bsky.socialhttps://www.youtube.com/@hooslefthttps://www.tiktok.com/@hooslefthttps://www.instagram.com/scottrog78/https://www.threads.net/@scottrog78https://hoosier.social/@scottrog78And once again, subscribe at https://scottaaronrogers.substack.com/subscribe