Here's Where It Gets Interesting
The Myth of Educational Reform with Dr. Bettina Love
On today’s episode of Here’s Where It Gets Interesting, we’re discussing all things public schools: The good, the bad, and the controversial. Joining Sharon is Dr. Bettina Love, Professor at Teachers College, Columbia University who has a new book out: Punished for Dreaming. Between chronic school underfunding, pressure placed on standardized testing, the devaluing of educators, teacher burnout, and a list of ongoing systemic challenges, many agree that something needs to change in the school system. The word “reform” is bandied about, but what does “reform” actually mean? And how do school segregation issues – past and present – show up, and impact education for generations to come?
Special thanks to our guest, Dr. Bettina L. Love, for joining us today.
Host/Executive Producer: Sharon McMahon
Guest: Dr. Bettina L. Love
Audio Producer: Jenny Snyder
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