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Episode 32 - Hearty White (Conversation 2, Part 2)

Episode 32 - Hearty White (see also episodes 8 and 31!) Here are the pretty much the same notes as our last episode (part 1 of this conversation), with one addition - here's a link to "super cenetnarian" Lillian Cox, who comes up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillian_Cox *** Here’s the second of ***two*** new episodes with WFMU radio talker Hearty White (one longish conversation split in two. If you haven't listened to our first conversation back in Episode 8, DO! It might not be for you, but it is, it will be VERY much for you - I wish I could be right there with you to see how excited you'll be to meet him! Every week, (Thursdays at 7pm on WFMU or on the internet any time like the rest of us), listening to Hearty's show, Miracle Nutrition, I learn so much about artmaking and radio and comedy and improvisation and ego and kindness and all kinds of wonderful pop-culture and scientific and philosophical arcana from this man every time I listen to him. Back in episode 8, Hearty’s willingness to explain the magic of his show and the fine line and decisions involved in being "Hearty" as opposed to his non-radio human are endlessly fascinating, to me anyway, and I'm sure will be to many of you as well! Just a a couple things Hearty and I shot the shit about in this episode: Charo Foley Dora Hall, Solo Cup Heiress historysdumpster.blogspot.com/2012/08/do…-hall.html Jane Fonda Borges and I On having/wanting an audience - “close friends don’t listen regularly” because they get to see you in real life Victor Borge (of course) Ageism The Green Child Xavier Cugat My Dinner with Andre The Sorites (“Heap”) Paradox John Berger (Way’s of Seeing and Why we Look at Animals) www.brainpickings.org/2014/04/01/why…about-looking/ www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pDE4VX_9Kk (Ways of Seeing) Meadowlark Lemon and the Harlem Globetrotters, how distant a cartoon version oneself can be from oneself Scatman Caruthers Cartoon Michael Jackson’s pink snake Selling one’s old embarrassing work - “If you keep saying no they just keep throwing [more] money at you.” Ricky Gervais, “Extras” . . . and the original “Office” Confidence Improvisation - “I’ll just let you hear me writing it.” Houdini and “pulling stuff out of your ass” re imrprovisation, “overriding self-doubt and self consciousness and letting it flow.” Point being, improvised work doesn’t come out of thin air, you’ve got it up in you there to pull out. Monologue vs. Conversation “I would write everything but I never get around to it, so I’ll just let you hear me writing it.” On the value of being “semi-interesting” and discursive as opposed to polished and tight on the radio. On making “Adult Swim” shorts and doing take after take and losing spontaneity, losing what makes Hearty White work work. www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5DjPQtuvi8 (adult swim clip) Psychics Deception Ricky Jay Which lead to Cameron Episode Ted Turner *** Ed Patenaude is our engineer, tootin' the horn and keeping the 15minutes Train rollin'! Find us at 15minutesjamieberger or here on soundcloud or in itunes or on facebook or on twitter/instagram (@15minsjamieb) or ***Patreon*** (help us help you! www.patreon.com/15minutesjamieberger or just about anywhere pods are cast - thanks!

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