15 Minutes: a podcast about fame, with Jamie Berger
Episode 32 - Hearty White (Conversation 2, Part 2)
Episode 32 - Hearty White (see also episodes 8 and 31!) Here are the pretty much the same notes as our last episode (part 1 of this conversation), with one addition - here's a link to "super cenetnarian" Lillian Cox, who comes up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillian_Cox *** Here’s the second of ***two*** new episodes with WFMU radio talker Hearty White (one longish conversation split in two. If you haven't listened to our first conversation back in Episode 8, DO! It might not be for you, but it is, it will be VERY much for you - I wish I could be right there with you to see how excited you'll be to meet him! Every week, (Thursdays at 7pm on WFMU or on the internet any time like the rest of us), listening to Hearty's show, Miracle Nutrition, I learn so much about artmaking and radio and comedy and improvisation and ego and kindness and all kinds of wonderful pop-culture and scientific and philosophical arcana from this man every time I listen to him. Back in episode 8, Hearty’s willingness to explain the magic of his show and the fine line and decisions involved in being "Hearty" as opposed to his non-radio human are endlessly fascinating, to me anyway, and I'm sure will be to many of you as well! Just a a couple things Hearty and I shot the shit about in this episode: Charo Foley Dora Hall, Solo Cup Heiress historysdumpster.blogspot.com/2012/08/do…-hall.html Jane Fonda Borges and I On having/wanting an audience - “close friends don’t listen regularly” because they get to see you in real life Victor Borge (of course) Ageism The Green Child Xavier Cugat My Dinner with Andre The Sorites (“Heap”) Paradox John Berger (Way’s of Seeing and Why we Look at Animals) www.brainpickings.org/2014/04/01/why…about-looking/ www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pDE4VX_9Kk (Ways of Seeing) Meadowlark Lemon and the Harlem Globetrotters, how distant a cartoon version oneself can be from oneself Scatman Caruthers Cartoon Michael Jackson’s pink snake Selling one’s old embarrassing work - “If you keep saying no they just keep throwing [more] money at you.” Ricky Gervais, “Extras” . . . and the original “Office” Confidence Improvisation - “I’ll just let you hear me writing it.” Houdini and “pulling stuff out of your ass” re imrprovisation, “overriding self-doubt and self consciousness and letting it flow.” Point being, improvised work doesn’t come out of thin air, you’ve got it up in you there to pull out. Monologue vs. Conversation “I would write everything but I never get around to it, so I’ll just let you hear me writing it.” On the value of being “semi-interesting” and discursive as opposed to polished and tight on the radio. On making “Adult Swim” shorts and doing take after take and losing spontaneity, losing what makes Hearty White work work. www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5DjPQtuvi8 (adult swim clip) Psychics Deception Ricky Jay Which lead to Cameron Episode Ted Turner *** Ed Patenaude is our engineer, tootin' the horn and keeping the 15minutes Train rollin'! Find us at 15minutesjamieberger or here on soundcloud or in itunes or on facebook or on twitter/instagram (@15minsjamieb) or ***Patreon*** (help us help you! www.patreon.com/15minutesjamieberger or just about anywhere pods are cast - thanks!
Eugene Mirman (re-edit/reboot) - Episode 75
Back in 2016, aka a zillion horror-movie lifetimes ago, my friend Eugene and I had a late-night conversation about fame, comedy, having a newborn baby boy, and much much more. I re-edited it to put it back out here on the occasion of the streaming release of the wonderful documentary "It Started as a Joke," which follows the decade long run of the Eugene Mirman Comedy Festival along with the parallel story of Eugene and his wife Katie's battle with her cancer. That may sound like a rough juxtaposition, but it's extremely well done. You'll laugh, you'll cry - see it, it's not like you don't have any free time right now.http://prettygoodfriends.com/it-started-as-a-jokeBest to all in these strange, tough times.-j
Beth Lisick (reboot) - Episode 74
Re-edit reboot of my 2017 two-episode conversation with Beth Lisick on the occasion of the publication of her great new and first novel, "Edie on the Green Screen." Congratulations, Beth!The episode starts with a serious #metoo conversation before moving on to lighter topics. So if you're needing light in these heavy times, after the intro, jump ahead about a half an hour.Best to you all, I wish you the best lives you can possibly live right now!-jamie
Michael Ian Black - re-edit/reboot of episodes 50 & 51
Back in 2017, I spoke to actor/writer/comedian Michael Ian Black for this show. At the time, I broke our conversation up into two episodes, each preceded by a long rant by me about the political and social injustices of the day. Well, it's the end of the year, and I'm exhausted by injustice, and decided to re-edit the conversation into a single, more entertaining whole. I think you'll enjoy it. We talk about fame of course, and about our mothers, about toe fungus, his feud with Marc Maron, the list goes on. Listening back, I found this, on how what's better than being a lead, the famous one, on a TV series, is being somewhere around 5-7 on the call list:"“If I knew that I would have an acting job for the next five years on a network show, where I didn’t even really have to think, it was just showing up, doing some scenes, having a free lunch and collecting a fat paycheck, I would like to do that for the next five years with the full knowledge that at the end of the five years I’d have enough money in the bank to write a novel, devote myself to the podcast, five years of being number 5-7 on the call sheet. There’s a sweet spot there that’s just ideal. I don’t want to be in every scene, I don’t want to solve the crime.”***I wish us all better times, and a free and fair election, in 2020.-Jamie B.