15 Minutes: a podcast about fame, with Jamie Berger
Episode 50 - MIchael Ian Black, pt. 1
Episode 50 - Michael Ian Black, pt. 1 Hello and goddam we made it to FIFTY! After this year and a half of letting politics and social commentary exist on this show only as it came up within the conversations, for the first time, I’ve decided to talk for a few minutes all by myself at the top of the show, pretty much completely off topic, pretty much about my working through how to be a 53-year-old white straight male ally in these days of Trump and Weinstein and C.K. If you can make it through that ... Michael Ian Black and I talk about everything from our moms (of course) and his recent memoir, “Naval Gazing,” about his mother and her illness, among other things, to his podcast, “How to Be Amazing,” to dream jobs, to his twitter activism fighting Trump and all the other horrible shit therein that’s happened this year, to his three-decade (what I’m calling) love-feud with Marc Maron. Oh, and fame. We talk about fame too. Here’s verifiable information his bio says about him: Michael Ian Black is a multi-media talent who’s starred in numerous films and TV series, written and/or directed two films, is a prolific author and commentator, and regularly tours the country performing his ribald brand of jokes and observations. He most recently starred in TVLand's “The Jim Gaffigan Show” and Comedy Central’s “Another Period.” He also reprised one of his iconic film roles in Netflix’s “Wet Hot American Summer: Ten Years Later,” and previously in "Wet Hot American Summer: First Day of Camp." His third standup comedy special, “Noted Expert,” was released on Epix. Black has authored 11 books, including the recently released best seller, “A Child’s First Book of Trump.” He’s written two well-received memoirs: “Navel Gazing: True Tales of Bodies, Mostly Mine (but also my mom’s, which I know sounds weird)”, and “You're Not Doing It Right: Tales of Marriage, Sex, Death and Other Humiliations.” Eleanor Gordon-Smith’s “This American Life” piece: by turns upsetting, fascinating amusing and maybe ultimately depressing story on trying to get a few Australian men to reconsider the “harmless”ness catcalling and ass-slapping. https://m.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/603/once-more-with-feeling?act=1#act-1 Nicole Stamp CNN “What Decent Men Can Do” - If you listen to my intro, you’ll know I’m not satisfied with this as being enough, at least for me, but it’s a darn good start: http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/21/opinions/what-men-can-do-me-too-stamp-opinion/index.html Here’s the "How if You’re a Man … Trash" piece I talked about in the intro: https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/how-if-you-re-a-man-to-deal-with-the-fact-that-you-re-1820410857?utm_source=theroot_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow Here's my essay, "Peep Show": https://psiloveyou.xyz/peep-show-9912979642cd Want more on the awful topics of recent weeks? Try Googling: Jessica Valenti, Rebecca Traister, Bell Hooks, Barbara Erenreich Next week: Part two of the M.I.B. conversation, as well as another rant, this time about the extra added power of having not just money or employment but fame as a weapon that entertainment/arts-world abusers wield; and how now do we go on being fans of the white guys we love? There's some fun/funny stuff in there too, I hope. For the other 49: http://15minutesjamieberger.com (or itunes or stitcher or wherever pods are cast) Happy Thanksgiving!!!! -Jamie
Michael Ian Black - re-edit/reboot of episodes 50 & 51
Back in 2017, I spoke to actor/writer/comedian Michael Ian Black for this show. At the time, I broke our conversation up into two episodes, each preceded by a long rant by me about the political and social injustices of the day. Well, it's the end of the year, and I'm exhausted by injustice, and decided to re-edit the conversation into a single, more entertaining whole. I think you'll enjoy it. We talk about fame of course, and about our mothers, about toe fungus, his feud with Marc Maron, the list goes on. Listening back, I found this, on how what's better than being a lead, the famous one, on a TV series, is being somewhere around 5-7 on the call list:"“If I knew that I would have an acting job for the next five years on a network show, where I didn’t even really have to think, it was just showing up, doing some scenes, having a free lunch and collecting a fat paycheck, I would like to do that for the next five years with the full knowledge that at the end of the five years I’d have enough money in the bank to write a novel, devote myself to the podcast, five years of being number 5-7 on the call sheet. There’s a sweet spot there that’s just ideal. I don’t want to be in every scene, I don’t want to solve the crime.”***I wish us all better times, and a free and fair election, in 2020.-Jamie B.
Episode 2 - Tim Lockfeld
My dear friend and former San Francisco Public Library colleague, skater, certified arborist, actor, adventure traveller, and raconteur, on how he brought punk and skateboarding together; the splendors and hazards of trimming Sharon Stone's trees; and other gems. A perfect example of the hardest-to-lure guest: the decidedly non-famous person who wants to come on a podcast and dig into the topic.It's still one of my favorites, back from when I didn't know what I was doing at all but sometimes it worked.Enjoy!-Jamie
That First Hodgman Episode from back in aught-16
If you listened to Episode 72, with John Hodgman, or even if you didn't (you should), here's Episode 1, as promised, with same. Warning: there's a lot of ambient, though not unpleasant, noise (of a busy bar) in the interview, and then rather low sound quality for the Judge John Hodgman meetup, which ostensibly wasn't being recorded for the podcast, but which I wanted to include here for the true JJH Stans out there jonesin' for a deep cut. Image is a pic from the poster for the event at the Rendezvous in Turners Falls, MA, back in 2015 (yes I dithered an entire nother year before launching the show - don't do that!), designed by Anja Schutz.